HDV files that suitable for blu ray dvd writing?

OGUL schrieb am 31.05.2008 um 20:59 Uhr
Hi everybody!
Are the HDV files from HC9e or HV30 or generally from "consumer" cameras suitable for blu ray dvd writing?

Can they be used when writing a blu ray dvd or will they exibit some problems?

Is there anyone among you who tried a consumer camera's HDV recordings?

What should be the best HDV source for a good blu ray dvd?

Thanks in advance.

Kommentare

Terje schrieb am 01.06.2008 um 11:12 Uhr
Are the HDV files from HC9e or HV30 or generally from "consumer" cameras suitable for blu ray dvd writing?

Yes, assuming your Blu-Ray writing software accepts HDV (it should) and can convert the HDV audio to AC3 (it should).

Can they be used when writing a blu ray dvd or will they exibit some problems?

Should work fine as MPEG-2 or converted to H.264 or VC1.

Is there anyone among you who tried a consumer camera's HDV recordings?

Yup, lots of us.

What should be the best HDV source for a good blu ray dvd?

Don't know what you mean by "best". Best for what?
OGUL schrieb am 01.06.2008 um 18:45 Uhr
Dear Terje, thanks for your reply!
I know that my a/m questions seem a little bit silly!
But all wanted to learn that if the below mentioned claim has a validity?
In a forum, somebody wrote that :
"When you enter a Sony Shop you'll see superb videos playing on Bravia TV's. But these demo videos are produced with professional movie cameras and then ripped to HD! So there in no chance that you can obtain the same image quality with your HC9e (or any consumer camera). You can only obtain videos with 50% of the image quality that you see in the Sony shops!"

Is this the case?
Can it be true?

Thanks.
Malcolm D schrieb am 01.06.2008 um 20:04 Uhr
Yes, it is true.
The promos playing in our stores run on a HD HDD player roughly equivalent to a PS3 in performance.
The files are higher quality than HDV shot with a broadcast camera and displayed at a higher data rate than HDV.
Notice also there is very little movement in them.
Having said that I am not unhappy with my HC1 video playing from the PS3 HDD or DVD-R in HD.
The closest you will get to the store quality is to shoot with an EX1 and play back in a PS3 which I also do but this is beyond the means of most amateurs and requires a lot of skill with the camera.
I have shot a lot of video with the HC1 and most viewers describe it as like looking out a window.
Most HDV cameras should be the same.

Terje schrieb am 02.06.2008 um 09:15 Uhr
Can it be true?

Ask your self the following questtion: If a $900 HDV consumer camcorder could give you perfect HD quality image, would there be a market for $30,000 or more HD equipment?

Clearly there are cameras out there that will give better results than consumer HDV camcorders, but the consumer camcorders will typically give stunning results compared to standard definition camcorders.

I am not quite sure what you are trying to find out with your line of questioning. What is it that you are really wondering about?
OGUL schrieb am 02.06.2008 um 14:54 Uhr
Thank you Terje & Malcolm D.
In fact there is one more answer that I need!
It is about that "$30,000 or more HD equipment?" you already mentioned.
The guy in that forum also said "no HD camera can reach the image quality of HD's ripped from films taken with movie cameras."
Can this be possible?
Really "no HD camera"?
Terje schrieb am 02.06.2008 um 15:35 Uhr
[i]The guy in that forum also said "no HD camera can reach the image quality of HD's ripped from films taken with movie cameras."<.i>

It really depends. If the film stock is the original stock and it is not copied ever, and if the scanner that creates the copy is very good, this may well be true. Remember, film has fairly high resolution in the original footage, but this quality goes down hill pretty fast once you start copying it, which you have to with film. If you shoot with a 4K camera, you can copy and copy and copy without losing any quality, so the end result might be higher quality with a good quality digital-all-the-way work-flow, but he's partly right and partly wrong.
boggaf05 schrieb am 02.06.2008 um 21:27 Uhr
I use footage from HDV cameras all the time and put them on blu-ray and everyone I give one to has said WOW, but remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Meaning the majority of customers will not be able to tell the difference HDV and what they see in HD on the television, which is what most will compare it to.

I still use a sony HC7 which has the same guts as the HC9 and if you have proper lighting and run most settings manually it will produce stunning results mostly indifferent from more professional models.

OGUL schrieb am 02.06.2008 um 21:44 Uhr
Thanks to all!

You encouraged me a lot which was I needed most!
I already have DCR-SR90e, so I've already had the chance to play all the setting manually!

I'll approach this HC9e as if has Fujichrome Velvia film in it and also as if I'm using my old Canon T-90 camera. Manual settings used to give me always better results!
boggaf05 schrieb am 03.06.2008 um 01:57 Uhr
Oh, and another good comparison of quality is to watch dirty jobs on the discovery channel, on many episodes they use a Sony HC3 HDV camera (which has a lower quality chip than the HC7)on some tight shots and the difference in quality is almost identical to the 1920x1080 footage, I was actually suprised at how good the quality was compared to the more expensive cameras used on the show.
OGUL schrieb am 03.06.2008 um 08:43 Uhr
Thank you baggaf05:)
I understood that I'm on the correct way:)
Your experiences cleared my way...