Audio after uploading videos to YouTube drops by 50% Vegas Pro 17.0

WolfieNivia wrote on 6/5/2020, 9:04 PM

All right so I've spent hours trying to figure this out and only get vague non related answers as well as the useless black hole of YouTube's support.

So during editing I've been having trouble with my audio I crank up the individual channels and master volume so high that I'm practically always clipping in Vegas Pro, render it out and check the file boom sounds identical no issues Great! But! When I upload it to YouTube or play It through my browser it sounds like I lost about 50ish% of the total volume since this isn't an issue most other people seem to have I have to be doing something wrong but I'm to much of a novice to find out what it is.

Uploaded Video example

My current rendering

Help would be extremely appreciated as I'm mentally exhausted on this.

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WolfieNivia wrote on 6/5/2020, 9:45 PM

Yes when I play the render in WMP, and Movies & TV it has similar if not identical volume to when I was editing in Vegas Pro.

Edit: Added the rendered product file

Edit2: After viewing the video uploaded It shares similar volume with the youtube upload and not the file on my computer

vidx wrote on 6/5/2020, 10:17 PM

Check your systems volume mixer. Maybe the browser has its own volume setting which is lower than normal which effects youtube playback volume.

WolfieNivia wrote on 6/5/2020, 10:39 PM

Vidx was right after maxing my browser volume the video returned to normal edited volume I guess I just got so caught up in the fact they everyone else's video is so absurdly loud that I had to be doing something wrong during editing or rendering. Thank you I was being a goof.

That being said I'd still like to bring my volume up to match the normality on YouTube so my viewers don't have to alter their volume for me so if anyone can point me at a tutorial or explain to me how to raise the master volume without causing massive clipping issues I'd appreciate that.

Edit: Yeah Eric I figured after viewing probably should've just x'd it rather than leave it up but doing allot of work on the side Right now and it slipped my mind.

john_dennis wrote on 6/5/2020, 11:08 PM

@WolfieNivia

Learn to use Wave Hammer and Loudness Meters if you must, but it's probably futile to get into an arms race with the folks on YouTube.

rraud wrote on 6/6/2020, 10:08 AM

In YT's re-rendering process, volume is arbitrarily attenuated if it is louder than (integrated) -14 LUFS. A three or four minute clip can be checked online at Loudness Penalty.com to see how much YT, Spotify, iTunes and others will lower a file's volume. I use -16 LUFS for online narrative and -14 LUFS for online music projects.

btw, YT does not raise volume levels if they are anemic.

Musicvid wrote on 6/6/2020, 2:03 PM

In YT's re-rendering process, volume is arbitrarily attenuated if it is louder than (integrated) -14 LUFS. A three or four minute clip can be checked online at Loudness Penalty.com to see how much YT, Spotify, iTunes and others will lower a file's volume. I use -16 LUFS for online narrative and -14 LUFS for online music projects.

btw, YT does not raise volume levels if they are anemic.

That is useful to know. I am glad they are finally doing something.

For the record, the de facto internet (not broadcast) loudness metric is -17LUFS. This is borrowed from the iTunes standard, and is 6dB louder than ATSC A/85.

lenard-p wrote on 6/6/2020, 8:04 PM

In YT's re-rendering process, volume is arbitrarily attenuated if it is louder than (integrated) -14 LUFS. A three or four minute clip can be checked online at Loudness Penalty.com to see how much YT, Spotify, iTunes and others will lower a file's volume. I use -16 LUFS for online narrative and -14 LUFS for online music projects.

That doesn't appear to be true, not Integrated LUFS at -14. Youtube may have their own metering system, and sometimes it resembles Integrated LUFS of -14. I chose what I knew would be an obnoxiously loud video by the title, and checked levels. It's -7.1 LUFS and the audio actually peaks +1.2db in vegas timeline

I then reuploaded his video to test for any limiting, but there is none, still obnoxiously loud. I will link original video, but 2 warnings , extremely annoying kid, and very loud peaks