Dual Monitor advice, please

Maverick wrote on 10/4/2013, 8:20 AM
My wife's monitor is just sitting gathering dust since her PC gave up the ghost and she uses her laptop so I was thinking of making use of it for editing purposes.

My current monitor is 26" 1920x1200 16:10 HDMI and my wife's is 24" 1920x1080 16:9 DVI.

My thoughts were to use my wife's for the timeline editing and mine for preview and veiwing effects windows. From research it seems that mixing resolutions can be done but are there any implications/issues in doing this with Vegas Pro 12?

Is is simply a case of plug and play or are there other considerations.



VMP wrote on 10/4/2013, 8:46 AM
Hi Maverick,

I guess it depends on your video card too.
My EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4GB card doesn't seem to have issues with monitors with different resolutions.

I have recently connected a TV 1920x1080 with my monitor 1920x1200 and they both worked fine. You can usually manually set this in the monitor control panel.
set wrote on 10/4/2013, 8:57 AM
No problem with that.
I even had 1440x900 as second monitor on the left, plus 1920x1200 as main.

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Chienworks wrote on 10/4/2013, 9:13 AM
Windows is pretty forgiving when it comes to resolutions. If the video card can support the resolutions then Windows has no problem using them and mixing them. I don't know of any dual-head video card that can't mix resolutions.

As far as which one is used for which, i'd use the one with higher vertical resolution for the timeline so you've got more space to work with, and the one that is actually standard HD resolution for monitoring. But that's just me. Try it both ways and see what you like better.
VMP wrote on 10/4/2013, 9:27 AM
By the way, don't you guys get neck strain by turning left and right all the time looking at two monitors?
That's the reason that I am looking for a single large 27" monitor, instead.

Chienworks wrote on 10/4/2013, 9:41 AM
It seems very natural to me. I also have dual monitors at work and i really like using it as a way to put different kinds of tasks in two different frames. This helps me not only be able to glance at everything i'm doing, but also helps me keep track of different types of things that i'm working on.

At home i've got two 21" monitors and i sit back about 2 feet from them. The pair at work are two 19".
VMP wrote on 10/4/2013, 10:50 AM
Ok thanks Chienworks.
dxdy wrote on 10/4/2013, 10:50 AM
I just bought a 32" LG TV (1080p) and use it for editing and preview. Plenty of resolution and I can work without my glasses on, sitting arms length from the screen. It was a demo from Best Buy, and really cheap.
ritsmer wrote on 10/4/2013, 11:19 AM
By the way, don't you guys get neck strain by turning left and right all the time looking at two monitors?

Not at all. Right now looking at
1 x 27" 1980x1200 with Vegas incl. preview on it
plus, to the right
1 x 24" 1980x1200 with (mostly) Directory Opus showing large thumbnails for my media.
Steve Mann wrote on 10/4/2013, 1:03 PM
Three here - two seems so restrictive and one is such a pain...
(The TV in the background doesn't count).

rmack350 wrote on 10/4/2013, 1:31 PM
By the way, don't you guys get neck strain by turning left and right all the time looking at two monitors?

Yes I do. I started using dual screens almost 20 years ago (time flies!) on 4:3 CRTs. That was very easy but with 16:10 screens I find that most of my screen content is pretty far off to the sides. This would be okay if the most important content were in the middle but with dual screens the screen bezels are always what's directly in front of you.

I've fidgeted with my screen setup quite a bit and the most useful thing has been to just push the screens farther away. That changes the total arc I have to cover and makes a lot of difference.

Maverick wrote on 10/4/2013, 1:49 PM
Thanks for all the replies, tips and anecdotes. Very helpful,

One more question...

I envisage only using dual screen for Vegas Pro. How easy is it have everything ship-shape for one monitor once I've turned the 24" off? Is it automatic or will I have to play with settings regularly?

VMP wrote on 10/4/2013, 2:40 PM
@ Maverick,

Turning your monitor off won't affect your running software-window or content.
It is an extended desktop space left and right. So turning off one of the monitor just disables your view to that part of the desktop.

The left monitor labeled '1' is the primary monitor. So the right one (secondary monitor) can be switched off and you can work further with the left primary monitor. But if you want to see the content that is on the right secondary monitor, you have to drag the content back to the left primary monitor.

Depending on your video card there is a possibility that your system may detect that your monitor is turned off. But usually as long as the monitor is connected 'jacked in' it detects it. Power turned off or on.

Also you can use your right secondary monitor as a video monitor for Vegas. This can be done using the setting in Vegas preview window.

Chienworks wrote on 10/4/2013, 3:07 PM
There are some monitors with very thin bezels. I've seen a few on display with as narrow as about 5mm between the edge of the image and the edge of the case. These aren't substantially more expensive so i don't understand why they're not more common.

I've also seen some with near 0 bezel, the image goes almost all the way to the edge with a border the width of maybe a couple of pixels at most. These tend to be *VERY* pricey.

I remember the first time a cow-orker handed me his new iPad to play with. One of the first things that struck me was the huge, over an inch wide, border around the screen. Seemed like quite a waste to me. The Samsug Galaxy Tab 2 i have now is closer to 1/2" which still seems excessive. My Motorola RAZR-M phone is only about 1/8" bezel on the long sides, and that seems satisfying.

But, about the bezels meeting in the middle of the dual monitor setup, you learn to ignore this pretty quickly. About the only time i notice it is when i'm working on large artwork and have one window stretched out across both monitors. I *expect* that the image is continuous *BEHIND* the bezels, and that there is a 1.5" stripe behind them is hidden from view. It freaks me out a little bit when i scroll the image and discover that as part of it disappears from one monitor it immediately appears on the other, sort of like a cosmic discontinuity.
Tim L wrote on 10/4/2013, 6:05 PM
I use two monitors -- at work (not video editing) and at home (video hobbyist) -- but I always set one directly in front of me as a main screen, and use the second, to my right, as a secondary screen. My main work is in front of me, and the secondary screen usually has MS Outlook open, maybe a file browser window, a second editing window (Notepad++) when I'm comparing or copying code between two projects, etc. I think I would get neck strain if I always had to turn my head to one screen or the other, intead of looking straight ahead most of the time. But, it would be unbearable (especially at work) to go back to a single monitor setup.
Rob Franks wrote on 10/4/2013, 8:11 PM
My dual monitor system is extended VERTICALLY for a 2040x1920 resolution as opposed to the normal side to side extension. I find that I don't have to move my neck.... just my eyes.
Rob Franks wrote on 10/4/2013, 8:16 PM
"I just bought a 32" LG TV (1080p) and use it for editing and preview. Plenty of resolution and I can work without my glasses on,"

You have increased the size, not the resolution. The resolution is still 1080x1920 with your 32". For increased resolution you need to use more than one monitor.
Maverick wrote on 10/5/2013, 6:28 AM
Have got both monitors working side-by-side now...

I put the wife's to the left of the original and had to play around with the display settings so that I could drag windows to the left onto the new monitor.

I was expecting the Task Bar to stretch across both but it remains on the original (right-hand-side) monitor. But that is OK. I was also expecting that if I double click a window's Title Bar that it would stretch across both but it just fills one monitor only. Is this how it is supposed to work?

Will take a bit of getting used to and will need to think how best to use them like this.

Again, thanks for all the advice :)

Wondering whether the way it is working for me is down the the different size screens and resolutions?
VMP wrote on 10/5/2013, 7:37 AM
@ Maverick

That's how it is supposed to be, it has nothing to do with resolution.
- Taskbar is displayed on the primary monitor (left).
- Program-windows will be maximized on the monitor where the windows are present. So if you hit maximize in the right monitor it maximizes the window there. It is like a snap option. That's great actually, imagine manually maximizing every window in each monitor. That wouldn't be quite productive.
- You can however stretch a window to both monitors by dragging the sides without hitting the maximize button.
Also you can place two same images or stretch a large one on both monitors to calibrate your monitors.

Use your primary monitor to calibrate your second monitor. Tweaking the brightness, contrast and the color levels should get them both to look similar.
The is especially important for color correcting your footage, without getting different standards.

Maverick wrote on 10/5/2013, 8:12 AM
Again, thanks. Getting used to the setup now - wonder why I never did this before :)

The new monitor definitely needs adjusting to match the old one which is something I will get onto soon.

Maverick wrote on 10/6/2013, 9:46 AM
Just thought I'd pass on a little program I found for allowing the same photo to stretch across both (or even more) monitors easily.

Woodenmike wrote on 10/6/2013, 3:40 PM
I use three monitors, a 27" for timeline, a 24" for small preview, docked project media, explorer, Excalibur, and any other "work windows" to dock, and the trimmer across the bottom of those, and a 27" for a preview window. the only issues I have had in all the years of using this set up is when I changed the size of text and items on the display control of windows...then some of my Vegas windows would not show the bottom of the screens, even when I scrolled down. I have my windows set about 40" away from my eyes and in an array which is very easy to track from one screen to another.