HELP - Vegas Not-Newbie but DVD-Burn Newbie...

Soniclight wrote on 8/17/2012, 11:48 PM

I have VP10e and even though I have had 6 years of Vegas under my belt...
I've never burned a video onto DVD for I've never needed to - because...

So far my work has been for the Web and I host a couple at my own site using JW/Longtail player. While the .veg is for this new project is 1920 x 960, NTSC 29.97, 1:0 pixel ration, progressive, the Web version is a Handbrake-d .mp4 @ RF-22 at 720 x 360, 836 B. Due to some in-video text scrolling, I found a trick to almost eliminate the Vegas credit-roll-jitters by running a 720x360 mp4 in a 800x400 resolution JW player.

I've included the MediaInfo for this Web version at the end here.

But now there is interest in purchasing copies of this video -- I don't need the money nor would I probably charge more than to cover postage - but have to now get down to business on how to do this on DVD.

Yes, I know there are plenty of thread on this here, but I'd get drowned in stuff that really wouldn't be relevant in this case: it's one 6:22 min. video, no chapters needed. The only thing I would probably need is one "Play" button (better than auto-play it seems -- though correct me if I'm wrong). But I've never even opened my installed DVD Architect 4.5 so far.

So...

Q: Could you suggest an easy-for-newbie choice of codec, bi-trate, etc. for this video* below using DVD Architect?

**

Some of the veterans here know my particular outside-the-box visual style and subject matter. Whether you like or don't like the content -- I'm only asking for your technical advice here, not a film-critic critique. That said, yes, I know it's a bit text-heavy as Farss has pointed out and some improvements would help, but this has been a long slog and I need to move on. Sometimes good-enough just has to be... good enough.

Thanks.

~ Philip

WEB VERSION OF VIDEO @ My Website

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General
Complete name : C:\CS--N E T\ANM\ANM_720_NOW.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 32.1 MiB
Duration : 6mn 22s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 704 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-08-17 23:58:23
Tagged date : UTC 2012-08-18 00:05:15
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.7 2012071500

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 6mn 22s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 540 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.000
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.070
Stream size : 24.6 MiB (77%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=9 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=300 / keyint_min=30 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2012-08-17 23:58:23
Tagged date : UTC 2012-08-18 00:05:14
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 6mn 22s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 195 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -33ms
Stream size : 7.29 MiB (23%)
Encoded date : UTC 2012-08-17 23:58:23
Tagged date : UTC 2012-08-18 00:05:13

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 8/18/2012, 12:03 AM

I think it was Abe Lincoln who once said - It's all in the workflow, my friend?"

Where are your source originals for this ??? - I hope you have them somewhere nicely archived and the veg file to boot. hmmm??

Then export video and audio streams made expressly for DVD Arch Pro from the Vegas timeline - everything else is a given. Could not be easier - IF YOU HAVE THE WORKFLOW

Grazie wrote on 8/18/2012, 12:25 AM

I don;t like the sound of using already "crunched-down" media to then make the MPEG2 - necessary for DVD - it could look awful.

Ditto VITGuy, you need to get that pristine Media opened in the original VEG, then work forward with the Workflow to making:

A] MPEG2 Video file of high enough bit-rate to accommodate your Particles and Text Tweening.

B] AC-3 Audio File of the exact same length. This is really easy to do in VP.

C] Open DVDA and drag the MPEG2 to the Menu or, which is what I do, drag MPEG2 to the DVDA Timeline.

For me, not taking into account the rendering of A] and B], C] takes about 10 seconds!

D] Preview to check and Q&A

E] Prepare DVD > Burn DVD

Joy! - Breathe out . . and . . . relax . . . .

Grazie

Soniclight wrote on 8/18/2012, 12:36 AM

videoITguy & Grazie,

I only included the Media Info for the Web version as an FYI so that it may clarify if some parts may look a bit pixelated or off, its due to the high compression -- not the original media. And speaking of which, most of the media -- but not all are .jpg and .png with a handful of AVI.

And of course I wouldn't use that mp4 version for the DVD -- I'm not that newbie :D
I've been shlepping around here since 2006.
Yes, I have the original .veg (I stated so above with its specs).

Now, to specifics you wrote, Grazie:

Q-1: This method would make an "auto-play" DVD, right - no menus, no nuttin', right?
Q-2: Due it being only 6:22 min. long, how high should I hit on bitrate without overkill to try to preserve some modicum of grace and flow of the PI emitter parts?

Grazie wrote on 8/18/2012, 3:50 AM

Q1=First Play feature in DVDA

Q2= As long or as short as a piece of string! Your shout here.

G

Malcolm D wrote on 8/18/2012, 4:31 AM

Since you are not getting straight answers.
Any DVD under 1 hour should be encoded in MPEG2 8Mb CBR.
No more or you may have problems with some players.

Encode audio in AC3 Pro. Use these settings: -
Dialog Norm at -31 (this sets it at unity gain)
RF and Line Mode DRC Off (WYHIWYG)
DC High Pass Filter On (this operates at <=3Hz and takes DC bias out of the mix)
Bandwidth Low Pass Filter On (this takes aliasing noise at >20kHz out of the encode, but it also lowered the rendered volume by -0.1dB in my tests)

If you use First Play the DVD will play immediately and you may not be able to shuttle etc. as it was designed for copyright warnings.
I do not use DVD Architect but just create a menu with one button so you can control when to start.

Malcolm

Grazie wrote on 8/18/2012, 4:59 AM

Malcolm, thanks for filling in any gaps I omitted. Muchly appreciated.

Grazie

Soniclight wrote on 8/18/2012, 5:41 PM

OK, thanks, Malcolm.
I shallst studyeth it :D