I need an advice about the format of storage of my video.

alexander-nNevis wrote on 11/8/2017, 1:14 PM

I need an advice about the format of storage of my video.
As I wrote earlier, my camera is pretty ancient, and it uses an exotic way of formation of the 4K video frame.

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The matrix of this Cam is divided into four virtual parts. Each part has a Full HD resolution.
The camcorder records video simultaneously in four threads in "AVCHD" format, on the four flash memory card simultaneously.
Proprietary  program "JVC 4K Clip Manager" together with "Grass Valley AVCHD Converter" 
using "Canopus HQX" codec creates a video file of 4K 59,94 fps.
Theoretically, the value of bitrate, of this 4K format video file should be equal to four times the value of the standard "AVCHD" format.
However, the program "Grass Valley AVCHD Converter", after "gluing" of these "quarters"

creates a video file with a bitrate of 1 Gigabit!

So there are two questions:
1. In what format do you recommend to keep the source video?
2. During the editing of this video source (or converted to another format to reduce the size of the video) in the "VP15"
   I can't use with this video bundled "Vegas Stabilizer" plugin. VEGAS Pro 15 always crashing , giving the error message:

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Problem Description
   Application Name:    VEGAS Pro
   Application Version: Version 15.0 (Build 216)
   Problem:             Unmanaged Exception (0xc0000005)
   Fault Module:        C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 15.0\proDADMercalli20.dll
   Fault Address:       0x000007FEBB716B36
   Fault Offset:        0x0000000000046B36

Fault Process Details
   Process Path:        C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 15.0\vegas150.exe
   Process Version:     Version 15.0 (Build 216)
   Process Description: VEGAS Pro
   Process Image Date:  2017-09-25 (Mon Sep 25) 16:06:42
------------------------------

This does not happen with video files taken with other cameras.

I will be very grateful to anyone who could give me some advice about a storage format of my video (without losing the original quality of the video), 
and help me find the reason of such "dislike" of bundled "Vegas Stabilizer" plugin to the format of my video files.

I unloaded 6 seconds of my video source files here (535 Mb!).

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Camcoders: Panasonic Lumix-DC-GH5, Sony DSC-RX10M4, Sony FDR-X3000

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004, Intel Core i9 10920X, ASUSTeK "X299 PRIME EDITION 30" (SOCKET 2066), 64 Gb DDR4-3200 G.Skill RAM, 200GB INTEL SSD (System), 800 Gb INTEL SSD for NLE, Same HDD for data, Creative Sound Blaster AE-9, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti.

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alexander-nNevis wrote on 11/8/2017, 3:36 PM

Thank you very much for the replies. Reading and encoding of my videos aren't problem for me. I have installed the updated version of the "Grass Valley Codec Pack" Version 8.5.0.1927. It's free. Only registration is required for download.

I can freely edit and render any of my video, via any plugins with the exception of the bundled "Vegas Stabilizer" plugin. 
VEGAS Pro 15 always crashing in middle of motion analysis..
Can anyone confirm the crash of the "VP15", while using the bundled "Vegas Stabilizer" plugin with my video?

For those who do not have installed "Grass Valley Codec Pack", 
i give a link to the same video file, rendered in VP15 with "XAVC-S Long" encoder: (mp4, 135 Mb)

https://mega.nz/#!8ShQFJZJ!X4H4t-f0spNi-3NlGDWUBw4yUwoMAN0EUxAFrbj4OII

Last changed by alexander-nNevis on 11/8/2017, 3:38 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

Camcoders: Panasonic Lumix-DC-GH5, Sony DSC-RX10M4, Sony FDR-X3000

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004, Intel Core i9 10920X, ASUSTeK "X299 PRIME EDITION 30" (SOCKET 2066), 64 Gb DDR4-3200 G.Skill RAM, 200GB INTEL SSD (System), 800 Gb INTEL SSD for NLE, Same HDD for data, Creative Sound Blaster AE-9, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti.

alexander-nNevis wrote on 11/8/2017, 4:16 PM

Thank You Cornico!

From support of the "proDAD" I got the same answer: "Use version 4"

That is why I started this conversation. Mercalli 4 plugin is now paid. I was forced to buy it, but the users that had this plugin in earlier versions of the VP will not be able to use the video stabilization effect in VP15.

By the way, You also said that sometimes use bundled "Vegas Stabilizer"

However, I hope the owners of such cameras as my is not a lot.

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Camcoders: Panasonic Lumix-DC-GH5, Sony DSC-RX10M4, Sony FDR-X3000

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004, Intel Core i9 10920X, ASUSTeK "X299 PRIME EDITION 30" (SOCKET 2066), 64 Gb DDR4-3200 G.Skill RAM, 200GB INTEL SSD (System), 800 Gb INTEL SSD for NLE, Same HDD for data, Creative Sound Blaster AE-9, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti.

alexander-nNevis wrote on 12/7/2017, 4:27 AM

Cornico

Use it only if I don't like the result of the internal one.

I can't use bundled "Vegas Stabilize" plugin with my video at all!

The applying the "Vegas Stabilize" plugin to any of my video will cause the collapse of Pro Vegas 15.

Regardless of the encoder and the format of my video, Vegas Pro 15 is crashing at the time of applying the plugin "Vegas stabilize" to my video.

Here is the new link to the MP4 video file encoded by the MAGIX AVC encoder. Without any HW acceleration.
https://mega.nz/#!Maw1jAyb!KygIQ9GzP4hk13X8bUL9UgO1a9a5pDxW_RfvJt3YTjI  (105 Mb)

I spoke to tech support. They suggest everything from turning off virtual memory to the rejection of the Sony encoder. Nothing helps. The new version of Vegas Pro 15 (build 261) is crashing like previous versions.

In the reports of the crash, the cause of the crash is always the file "C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 15.0\proDADMercalli20.dll"

 

Camcoders: Panasonic Lumix-DC-GH5, Sony DSC-RX10M4, Sony FDR-X3000

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004, Intel Core i9 10920X, ASUSTeK "X299 PRIME EDITION 30" (SOCKET 2066), 64 Gb DDR4-3200 G.Skill RAM, 200GB INTEL SSD (System), 800 Gb INTEL SSD for NLE, Same HDD for data, Creative Sound Blaster AE-9, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti.

diverG wrote on 12/7/2017, 4:56 AM

 The GV AVCHD converter  will not work with W10.  Stay with W7.  It's a very useful tool.  If you have managed to get it to work in W10 please do tell.

Sys 1 Gig Z370-HD3, i7 8086K @ 5.0 Ghz 16gb ram, 250gb SSD, 2x2Tb hd,  GTX 4060 8Gb, BMIP4k video out. (PS 750W); Vegas 18 & 19 plus Edius 8WG DVResolve18 Studio. Win 10 Pro (22H2) Bld 19045.2311

Sys 2 Gig Z170-HD3, i7 6700K @ 3.8Ghz 16gb ram, 250gb SSD, 2x2Tb, hdd GTX 1060 6Gb, BMIP4k video out. (PS 650W) Vegas 18 plus Edius 8WG DVResolve18 Studio Win 10 Pro (22H2) Bld 19045.2311

Sys 3 Laptop 'Clevo' i7 6700K @ 3.0ghz, 16gb ram, 250gb SSd + 2Tb hdd,   nvidia 940 M graphics. VP17, Plus Edius 8WG Win 10 Pro (20H2) Resolve18

 

alexander-nNevis wrote on 12/7/2017, 2:45 PM

Thanks Cornico, I know about it.

Can anyone, if it's not too hard, try to apply the "Vegas Stabilize" plugin to the video, the link to which is listed above (105 Mb.)?

I'll be very grateful. I'm trying to understand why my videos cause the collapse of Vegas, even after conversion to more common formats.

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Camcoders: Panasonic Lumix-DC-GH5, Sony DSC-RX10M4, Sony FDR-X3000

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004, Intel Core i9 10920X, ASUSTeK "X299 PRIME EDITION 30" (SOCKET 2066), 64 Gb DDR4-3200 G.Skill RAM, 200GB INTEL SSD (System), 800 Gb INTEL SSD for NLE, Same HDD for data, Creative Sound Blaster AE-9, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti.

john_dennis wrote on 12/7/2017, 3:29 PM

Vegas 13-453 failed at 38% with a media effect Stabilize at the default setting.

Vegas 12-770 failed at 40% with a media effect Stabilize at the default setting.

 

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My main system:
Motherboard: ASUS ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K - Core i9 13th Gen Raptor Lake 24-Core (8P+16E) P-core Base Frequency: 3.0 GHz E-core Base Frequency: 2.2 GHz LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Desktop Processor - BX8071513900K
GPU: Currently intel on-die video adapter
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600 (PC5 44800) Desktop Memory Model CMK64GX5M2B5600C40
Disk O/S & Programs: WD Black SN850 NVMe SSD WDS100T1X0E - SSD - 1 TB - PCIe 4.0 x4 (NVMe)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: CORSAIR - iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT 280mm Radiator CPU Liquid Cooling System
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Realtek S1220A on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: ASUS ProArt 31.5" 1440p HDR10 Monitor PA328QV
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 10.0.19045 Build 19045
Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

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alexander-nNevis wrote on 12/8/2017, 11:48 AM

Many thanks to All for the help !!

Now, at least I know that Vegas has problems with processing my video.

We have to figure out what in my video "is wrong". 🙎

Camcoders: Panasonic Lumix-DC-GH5, Sony DSC-RX10M4, Sony FDR-X3000

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004, Intel Core i9 10920X, ASUSTeK "X299 PRIME EDITION 30" (SOCKET 2066), 64 Gb DDR4-3200 G.Skill RAM, 200GB INTEL SSD (System), 800 Gb INTEL SSD for NLE, Same HDD for data, Creative Sound Blaster AE-9, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti.

john_dennis wrote on 7/15/2019, 4:10 PM

“In the reports of the crash, the cause of the crash is always the file ‘C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 15.0\proDADMercalli20.dll’ “

 

******************** Workaround Alert ********* Jerkaround Alert*************************

With UHD Source, for FHD delivery, and light stabilization requirements:

Render your source files to a lossless format at pixel dimensions enough over 1920x1080 to accommodate your stabilization without producing an output less than 1920x1080. I used 2304x1296 successfully.

[SWAG]

Stabilize the 2304x1296 intermediate file in your final project. The secret is to stay within the capabilities of the proDADMercalli20.dll.

[/SWAG]

Everything I just described is sub-optimal.

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My main system:
Motherboard: ASUS ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K - Core i9 13th Gen Raptor Lake 24-Core (8P+16E) P-core Base Frequency: 3.0 GHz E-core Base Frequency: 2.2 GHz LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Desktop Processor - BX8071513900K
GPU: Currently intel on-die video adapter
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600 (PC5 44800) Desktop Memory Model CMK64GX5M2B5600C40
Disk O/S & Programs: WD Black SN850 NVMe SSD WDS100T1X0E - SSD - 1 TB - PCIe 4.0 x4 (NVMe)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: CORSAIR - iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT 280mm Radiator CPU Liquid Cooling System
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Realtek S1220A on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: ASUS ProArt 31.5" 1440p HDR10 Monitor PA328QV
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 10.0.19045 Build 19045
Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

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Former user wrote on 7/15/2019, 6:49 PM

2 year old post.

john_dennis wrote on 7/15/2019, 10:11 PM

proDADMercalli20.dll hasn’t changed as of Vegas 15.

My main system:
Motherboard: ASUS ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K - Core i9 13th Gen Raptor Lake 24-Core (8P+16E) P-core Base Frequency: 3.0 GHz E-core Base Frequency: 2.2 GHz LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Desktop Processor - BX8071513900K
GPU: Currently intel on-die video adapter
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600 (PC5 44800) Desktop Memory Model CMK64GX5M2B5600C40
Disk O/S & Programs: WD Black SN850 NVMe SSD WDS100T1X0E - SSD - 1 TB - PCIe 4.0 x4 (NVMe)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: CORSAIR - iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT 280mm Radiator CPU Liquid Cooling System
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Realtek S1220A on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: ASUS ProArt 31.5" 1440p HDR10 Monitor PA328QV
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 10.0.19045 Build 19045
Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedennischannel

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