Image files -- need input

LooneyTunez wrote on 10/29/2002, 12:37 PM

If I had to pick two 'ISO' formats, I'd probably choose Disc Juggler (cdi) for the ability to burn on mulitple drives, and Nero (nrg) because it's probably one of the most popular CD burning sofware titles (is bundled with many drives).

Just my two cents of course.

TeeCee wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:14 PM

If I needed to burn an image, I would rather it be an ISO because they are probably the widest used. I believe Nero can burn ISO's just as Roxio's Easy CD Creator. The only audio images I've ever burnt were actually Plextor's own just because the Plextor software doesn't seem to be so much when opened like Nero or Easy CD Creator and it's very simple to use for copying CDs or burning images. No wizards or other junk I don't need. I'm always afraid Nero or easy CD Creator is going to take my system down by the time it's finally open and up for use.

TeeCee

Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:25 PM

Dennis.

What is the main object of mutli-burning ? Not the casual user wanting a few copies instead of one, but CD-R mass duplication.

The market leader is Padus, who have even developed their own PFC (Padus Foundation Class) for software developers.
Check out http://www.padus.com/news/article.php?id=000008

Padus DiscJuggler can write from ISO images, and it's own cdi format which it generates from advance extraction (and can image non-standard data).

So I guess ISO is the main one to have, which I believe other burning software can write too.

timparis wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:26 PM

I would prefer iso files head and shoulders above any other, because it's more universal than any other. Nero, Discjuggler, Alcohol 120%,Blindwrite, CDRWin supports them...
Of course, if you could burn to multiple drives via cda5 directly, there wouldn't be a need to convert, ahem...

Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:38 PM

Timparis said -
>Of course, if you could burn to multiple drives
>via cda5 directly, there wouldn't be a need to
>convert, ahem...

But CDA5 is an authoring and now mastering application. Isn't mass duplication getting just a little too cumbersome ? Maybe / maybe not, hey it's just another 'view' to open....

I think I prefer doing things in discrete steps. If my CD production was in the same app as authoring/mastering, I suspect I might forever be tempted to 'fiddle' with the source, rather than drawing the line and saying that the production master stage is *complete*.

Just rambling here .....

geoff

LooneyTunez wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:38 PM

If I remember correctly, DiscJuggler will burn ISO images too, so if that's true, then ISO is the only format needed to cover all the bases. Am I right? :\

Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:39 PM

Timparis said -
>Of course, if you could burn to multiple drives
>via cda5 directly, there wouldn't be a need to
>convert, ahem...

But CDA5 is an authoring and now mastering application. Isn't mass duplication getting just a little too cumbersome ? Maybe / maybe not, hey it's just another 'view' to open....

I think I prefer doing things in discrete steps. If my CD production was in the same app as authoring/mastering, I suspect I might forever be tempted to 'fiddle' with the source, rather than drawing the line and saying that the production master stage is *complete*.

Just rambling here .....

geoff

CDM wrote on 10/29/2002, 2:44 PM

You CAN burn to multiple drives... you just have to open multiple instances of CD Architect, which I've done and it works like a charm!!

I'd go with ISO as well.

timparis wrote on 10/29/2002, 3:05 PM

I always have to burn at least 8 identical copies of what I have mastered. I compile it in cda4, save as an image, then Premaster for cd- text, then burn it as an image in Nero to preserve the text, to multiple drives. Avoiding this activity by burning directly from cda5 would be wonderful.
I think a single burning capability is better than no burning capability, but not realistic these days. I would never burn a single copy of a cd.

Eventide wrote on 10/29/2002, 5:09 PM

The multiple instances of CDA5 is interesting! I'll have to try that one....! My preferred option would be to be able highlight all my recorders from within CDA5 and burn directly to all simultaneously. I need to provide multiple reference copies of mastering projects to clients, and burning direct from CDA is the only reliable way to ensure accurate pause/gap information is retained and presented correctly on a domestic CD player's read-out. Sometimes duplication software (DiscJuggler, for example) will ignore gaps/pauses altogether, even though the resulting CD plays fine (it just tags however many seconds' silence onto the end of the previous track). This can result in apparent (to the client!) differences in track timings from supplied PQ data.

Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/29/2002, 9:14 PM

wrt DiscJuggler, suggest you enable 'Scan gaps/indexes' by default then ....

geoff

Eventide wrote on 10/30/2002, 4:35 AM

All relevant boxes are checked in DiscJuggler - still won't get the pauses.....!

SonyDennis wrote on 10/30/2002, 9:28 AM

Some drives don't read subcode back to the PC, and therefore can't read pauses. You'll only get the TOC, which is just track starts. These same drives also won't read ISRC, or UPC/MCN.
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