Intel or AMD; Which CPU is better for Vegas Pro?

aboammar wrote on 8/8/2020, 4:19 PM

I am thinking to upgrade my current HP Z1 AIO workstation to a new customized system from MainGear. I am interested in the new TURBO series because of its small form factor case. The main components that I am currently thinking about are:

  • CPU: AMD RYZEN 9 3950X - 16 Cores - 3.5GHz (Boosts to 4.7GHz)
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
  • Cooling: MAINGEAR APEX Liquid Cooling System
  • RAM: 64GB HyperX Predator DDR4 3600MHz (2x32GB)
  • System & Applications SSD: 2TB Seagate FireCuda 520 Gen4 M.2 NVMe (Read/Write up to 5,000/4,400 MB/s)
  • Working SSD: 2TB Seagate FireCuda 520 Gen4 M.2 NVMe (Read/Write up to 5,000/4,400 MB/s)
  • Storage SSD: 4TB SAMSUNG 860 PRO Series SSD

However, I am a little hesitant about the AMD processor because all my previous computers since the last 31 years was always based on Intel processors!

So, for those who have information or experience on both AMD and Intel CPUs ..which would be better for Vegas Pro, AMD RYZEN 9 3950X or Intel Core i9-10980XE?

HP Z1 AIO Workstation G3

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Display: 23.6" UHD 4K

CPU: Xeon E3-1270 v5  quad-core @ 3.60GHz, 8MB cache, up to 4GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology

GPU: nVidia Quadro M2000M 4GB

RAM: 32GB DDR4 2133MHz ECC memory

System Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Working Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Storage Drive: 3GB SSD (500MB/s)

Video: Vegas Pro 16 Suite / DaVinci Resolve 16 Studio

Audio: PreSonus Studio One Pro 5

Graphics: CorelDraw Technical Suite 2020 / Xara Designer Pro X365

Image Editing: Corel PhotoPaint 2020 / Corel PaintShop Pro X9 Ultimate / PHASEONE Capture One Pro 11

3D Graphics: Maxon Cinema 4D Studio 10

Camera: Sony A7S II / A7 III

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Comments

fr0sty wrote on 8/8/2020, 4:52 PM

I have a Ryzen 7 1800x on my desktop, and a Intel i9 9980HK in my laptop. I don't notice much of a difference between the two in VEGAS, even though the latter is supposed to be the superior processor. AMD has been delivering far more bang for the buck, especially in multi-core processes, than Intel for a while now.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

_Mark_ wrote on 8/8/2020, 6:22 PM

I used to swear by Intel until about a year ago, used them for years, I was hesitant too, but I would go AMD all the time form now on, as frosty says more bang for the buck.

Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2
ASUS TUF B450-PRO GAMING
ASUS VP28U 4K Monitor
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core
64GB DDR4 3200MHZ
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING X 12G (Latest Studio Drivers)

Audio Interface: Zoom UAC 8
Camera: Sony FDR-AX100E
Audio: Sony PCM-D100

 

adis-a3097 wrote on 8/8/2020, 6:31 PM

Might I add that 5950x is around the corner? :)

Chief24 wrote on 8/8/2020, 7:15 PM

Well, just looked at the "Turbo" system, main page only, that you linked to. My actual comment is more in line with the actual cooling of the entire system. If the "Turbo" system configuration you plan to get is similar to what shows on MainGear's site, there is very little "needed air flow" for the remainder of the system. And it would not matter with either one of the listed CPU's you asked about, as both are HOT! Of course, we do not know the amount of available space you have for the case, and a small one as you have shown, may be your only option...again, we do not know.

Just look at the current issues with the two new "Main Contenders" in the camera wars: Sony A7Siii vs. Canon EOS R5. Both great cameras, both with Over-Heating issues (add Canon R6 to the list as well, Fuji XT-4, and others). Again, all great cameras, all have Heat issues. Super Hot Electronics, in small confined space, with limited to no Air Flow. Panasonic S1H? Bigger body, plus cooling fan. Cinema Cameras? Bigger Bodies with ventilation and fans (just think how happy some of the Canon shooters felt when Canon actually moved the vent to the opposite side on I believe the C300 Mk II/III and C500 Mk II).

But, in regards to your actual question. Either processor would work fine. Just which one (including overall platform) does your Pocket Book like better? That and the ever present "Better Half", if you have one! 😁

Just thought I would put that out there as "Food for Thought".

Self Build: #1 MSI TRX40 Pro Wi-Fi w/3960X (be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4) @ stock; 128GB Team Group 3200 MHz; OS/Apps - WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4 4TB, Documents/Extras - WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4 4TB; XFX AMD Radeon 7900XTX (24.1.1); Samsung 32 Inch UHD 3840x2160; Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit (23H2 22631.3155); (2) Inland Performance 2TB/(2) PNY 3040 4TB PCI-e on Asus Quad M.2x16; (2) WD RED 4TB; ProGrade USB CFExpress/SD card Reader; LG 16X Blu-Ray Burner; 32 inch Samsung UHD 3840x2160.

VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411) & HOS (Happy Otter Scripts); DVD Architect 7.0 (100);

Sound Forge Audio Studio 15; ACID Music Studio 11; SonicFire Pro 6.6.9 (with Vegas Pro/Movie Studio Plug-in); DaVinci Resolve (Free) 18.6.5

#2: Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D w/7960x (Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6) @ stock; 128GB Kingston Fury Beast RDIMM @4800 MHz; OS/Apps - Seagate Firecuda 540 2TB PCI-e 5.0x4; Documents/Extras/Source/Transcodes - 4TB WDSN850X PCI-e 4.0x4; 4TB Inland Performance PCI-e 3.0x4; 2TB Inland Performance PCI-e 4.0x4; BlackMagic PCI-e Decklink 4K Mini-Recorder; ProGrade USB SD & Micro SD card readers; LG 32 Inch UHD 3840.x2160: PowerColor Hellhound RX Radeon 7900XT (24.1.1); Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit (22631.3155)

VEGAS Pro 20 Edit (411) & HOS; DVD Architect 7.0 (100); Sound Forge Audo Studio 15; Acid Music Studio 11

Canon EOS R6 MkII, Canon EOS R6, Canon EOS R7 (All three set for 4K 24/30/60 Cinema Gamut/CLog3); GoPro Hero 5+ & 6 Black & (2) 7 Black & 9 Black & 10 Black & 11 Black & 12 Black (All set at highest settings - 4K, 5K, & 5.3K mostly at 29.970); Sony FDR AX-53 HandyCam (4K 100Mbps XAVC-S 23.976/29.970)

marchwill wrote on 8/8/2020, 7:53 PM

I've always been an Intel user, but recently started trying AMD to see how it goes. Having recently built, tested and compared a 3900x and a 10900k , I can tell you that Vegas seem to run way more smoothly on the AMD system. Projects load faster, there's no lag between alt/tabs and crashes are rare. So from now on it's AMD for me!

Former user wrote on 8/8/2020, 8:36 PM

And it would not matter with either one of the listed CPU's you asked about, as both are HOT! Of course, we do not know the amount of available space you have for the case, and a small one as you have shown, may be your only option...again, we do not know.

Most likely a style/fashion choice. Some people like getting the huge amount of performance seen here out of something tiny like a mini itx case. Not something everyone has or can afford. Best approach for these very small form factors either liquid cool both gpu and cpu or liquid cool cpu and use a gpu with a blower fan that exhausts directly to external, poster chose dual cooling option which is sensible for a luxury type build where you don't wan't to hear loud fans

 

aboammar wrote on 8/9/2020, 6:10 PM

@fr0sty @_Mark_ @adis-a3097 @Chief24 @marchwill and @Former user ... thank you all for your feedback. I highly appreciate it.

So it seems that AMD CPU should outperform its Intel counterparts!

@adis-a3097 Any details about the specs of 5950x? Is it a new class (above class 9)? Should I wait for it?

@Chief24  I am not worried at all about overheating because MainGear, which is a well known and respected company, uses APEX Closed Loop Liquid Coolers for bothe the CPU and GPU which are very efficient active cooling system thanks to the 3 stage water distribution system, the high-capacity reservoir, and the 2 large fans that cools down the liquid in the radiator.

Of course you can not compare that to mirrorless cameras which uses passive cooling system in a very small bodies!

HP Z1 AIO Workstation G3

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Display: 23.6" UHD 4K

CPU: Xeon E3-1270 v5  quad-core @ 3.60GHz, 8MB cache, up to 4GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology

GPU: nVidia Quadro M2000M 4GB

RAM: 32GB DDR4 2133MHz ECC memory

System Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Working Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Storage Drive: 3GB SSD (500MB/s)

Video: Vegas Pro 16 Suite / DaVinci Resolve 16 Studio

Audio: PreSonus Studio One Pro 5

Graphics: CorelDraw Technical Suite 2020 / Xara Designer Pro X365

Image Editing: Corel PhotoPaint 2020 / Corel PaintShop Pro X9 Ultimate / PHASEONE Capture One Pro 11

3D Graphics: Maxon Cinema 4D Studio 10

Camera: Sony A7S II / A7 III

Website: www.innoviahouse.com

Vimeo: vimeo.com/innoviahouse

adis-a3097 wrote on 8/9/2020, 10:38 PM

@fr0sty @_Mark_ @adis-a3097 @Chief24 @marchwill and @Former user ... thank you all for your feedback. I highly appreciate it.

So it seems that AMD CPU should outperform its Intel counterparts!

@adis-a3097 Any details about the specs of 5950x? Is it a new class (above class 9)? Should I wait for it?

@Chief24  I am not worried at all about overheating because MainGear, which is a well known and respected company, uses APEX Closed Loop Liquid Coolers for bothe the CPU and GPU which are very efficient active cooling system thanks to the 3 stage water distribution system, the high-capacity reservoir, and the 2 large fans that cools down the liquid in the radiator.

Of course you can not compare that to mirrorless cameras which uses passive cooling system in a very small bodies!

Wouldn't call it above class 9, just next gen. Seems promising, to me at least:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-4950X-5950X-16C-32T-Zen-3-Vermeer-s-boost-clock-may-touch-the-5-GHz-mark-AMD-could-skip-4000-series-naming-for-desktop.483975.0.html

:)