Mercalli V6 plugins for Magix aren't showing up

d00m7985 wrote on 5/9/2023, 6:06 PM

So, recently, I dropped a bunch of money on Vegas Pro 20 and even more recently I dropped a pretty big chunk of change on that V6 Mercalli plugin pack for Magix (for Vegas I assume). I have a camera with some pretty horrifyingly bad rolling shutter (a Canon XF605) so I figured this might be a good thing to pick up.

 

So, I ran the installer, rebooted for good luck (as everyone says you should do after installing anything), started up Vegas, and the plugins aren't there. Am I missing a step or twelve?

 

I tried searching for this on the forum. I'm not sure if the search is just broken or not optimized, but nothing came up (if anyone has a link to a relevant thread or, better, the solution, that'd be greatly appreciated too).

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Dr Zen wrote on 5/9/2023, 7:08 PM

Mercalli V6 Plug-Ins MAGIX is not compatible with VEGAS Pro! Which is why it is not showing up in VEGAS Pro.

This set of plugins will only work in MAGIX Video Pro X and MAGIX Movie Studio.

This was partly discussed recently in this alternate forum thread here:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/mercalli-v5-installation-to-vp20-b403--140884/

I actually asked ProDad back in January 2023, about whether and when they are going to release Mercalli V6 Plug-Ins for VEGAS Pro. ProDad support said this product is coming soon, however "soon" could mean anything.

Contact ProDad support and ask for a refund.
I'm sure they will understand the mistake you have made and give you a refund.

The alternative is to buy Mercalli V6 SAL Windows.
This is a full standalone version of Mercalli and works outside of VEGAS.
This is what I personally use. It's very good. I import my video, stabilize it, then render a new video, which can then be imported into my VEGAS Pro project for further editing.

This is an expensive program to buy when not on sale, unless you own an older version and buy the upgrade.

Reyfox wrote on 5/10/2023, 9:33 AM

Or at least, they should let you get Mercalli V5 Suite for Vegas with a free upgrade to V6 when it is released.

 

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 5/10/2023, 1:46 PM

@d00m7985 Yeah, Mercalli 6 is not yet available for Vegas Pro, but will be sometime in the future. Best to contact them as instructed above for a refund or repurchase.

steve-ohlhaber wrote on 3/10/2024, 9:29 PM

What is incredible is, Mercalli has NOTHING on their website that is compatible with Vegas right now. So, as far as the Magix stuff goes, they seem to have no software at all currently available for Vegas PERIOD. You cannot buy v4 or v5 plugins for vegas on the main tab. So, they have NOTHING for that. Its a bit weird, because VEGAS was the top app, I guess now its not even worth trying to sell software for it.

bitman wrote on 3/11/2024, 2:38 AM

@steve-ohlhaber Maybe it is because Vegas has some sort of Mercalli version licensed from them under the hood already for their stabilizing, but this is pure speculation from my side.

With Vegas 21 (365) I do not use Mercalli anymore, the stabilizing method with build in mocha Vegas plugin (although a bit cumbersome to use) works extremely well.

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Reyfox wrote on 3/12/2024, 5:54 AM

While the plugin for V5 is nice (I have V5 Suite for Vegas), I also have V6 standalone. Yes, it would be nice to have the plugin version, but for the most part, I personally rarely use it. It's there for emergencies.

But because proDAD doesn't have it for Vegas doesn't mean that Vegas is any "less" of a top app. Maybe if proDAD made an OFX version, it would sell more. The only other software that supports Mercalli as a plugin is Adobe and Edius. I don't see Davinci Resolve, FCP, Media Composer or any other editing software on that list. Does that mean that selling to those software isn't worth it? Maybe because they have alternative choices?

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john-brown wrote on 3/12/2024, 6:07 AM

@Reyfox

Hi,

The only other software that supports Mercalli as a plugin is Adobe and Edius.

I don't see a V6 plugin for Edius, only V5 Suite for Edius. Where do you see V6 for Edius?

If not, then the only plugins are for Adobe and Magix.

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Dexcon wrote on 3/12/2024, 6:39 AM

@steve-ohlhaber  ... consider a 'left field' alternative: Buy MAGIX Movie Studio (I think it's currently discounted - but trial it first to make sure that the Merc 6 plugin works in it) and use Movie Studio as a stand alone (SAL) editor just for Merc 6 stabilisation, render the stabilisation and import the render into Vegas Pro. I still use Merc 5 SAL for a lot of stabilisation work which involves exporting and then importing the render into Vegas Pro. Some may find that inconvenient, but the advantage is that the stabilisation rendering has already been done and therefore doesn't bog down the final project rendering especially if that needs to be done a number of times.

I've got Merc 6 SAL but don't particualrly like it. What makes the Merc 6 MAGIX plugin better than the Merc 6 SAL version is that the plugin version has some very useful template presets (e.g. Universal Camera, Glide Camera, Rock Steady Camera) which allows for a lot of user control over how stabilisation is managed. At least, this is what is claimed on ProDad's website as I recall. These template presets are not available in the Merc 6 SAL (i've not found them if they are there) even though those presets are available in the Merc 5 (and 4 ) SAL.

If you do get Movie Studio, you also get MAGIX Travel Maps which is a great app for creating route maps locally or worldwide. One map type is similar to Google Earth imaging. This app is a SAL.

BTW, there is no be-all-and-end-all program/plugin with stabilisation IMO. Each program/plugin has its own advantages and disadvantages. Mercalli is the best for general stabilisation but sometimes either Vegas Pro's stabiliser or DaVinci Resolve's stabiliser provides a better result - and in some cases BorisFX's Mocha Pro gives the best result with a particularly difficult stabilisation requirement. For example with a close shot on a flag fluttering in the wind, a broad-based stabiliser like Mercalli will try to follow the fluttering flag which invariably dramatically worsens the image. Whereas in Mocha Pro, a spline can be used around the flagpole (not including the fluttering flag) and Mocha's stabilisation will then just focus on stabilising the flagpole. I've done this a few times and the results are excellent.

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Reyfox wrote on 3/12/2024, 7:42 AM

Hi,

The only other software that supports Mercalli as a plugin is Adobe and Edius.

I don't see a V6 plugin for Edius, only V5 Suite for Edius. Where do you see V6 for Edius?

If not, then the only plugins are for Adobe and Magix.

John CB

@john-brown I only mentioned Mercailli as a plugin, not a specific version. You are correct with Edius being only V5.

 

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Jurijs-Lebedevs wrote on 3/12/2024, 12:08 PM

After I wrote to proDAD they gave me a link for Mercalli V6 OFX Plugin and provided other Serial. And all works well

Reyfox wrote on 3/12/2024, 12:57 PM

@Jurijs-Lebedevs really? An OFX plugin?

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 3/12/2024, 3:25 PM

@Jurijs-Lebedevs Are you sure about that?

As one of their customer i was even informed since morning that there is not yet a Mercalli 6 ofx plugin available for Vegas Pro.

Jurijs-Lebedevs wrote on 3/13/2024, 10:39 AM

In my Vegas 21.0 Build 208 Pro I saw "Mercalli Pro" among OFX Plugins and this showed me in the "About" Mercalli 6.0 Version 6.0.671.1. Setup file name is mercalli-60-ofx64bit.exe, 52,1 MB. I have no used it yet, but it presents in the list in my case.

Andreas-T wrote on 3/13/2024, 1:49 PM

You have to try it first, as i have installed in the past OFX plugins that did not support Vegas, and although the name appeared in the list inside the programm, as it read it from the OFX folder, it did not work ( as expected).

 

Jurijs-Lebedevs wrote on 3/15/2024, 9:24 AM

You have to try it first, as i have installed in the past OFX plugins that did not support Vegas, and although the name appeared in the list inside the programm, as it read it from the OFX folder, it did not work ( as expected).

 

https://failiem.lv/u/cte454ff2v - here some days (probably months) will remain 3 screenshots - How works Pan Shot Smoothing in this plugin in Vegas 21.0

marcinzm wrote on 5/23/2024, 4:34 PM

1)

I have been waiting for Prodad AI V6 OFX plugin for Vegas Pro 21. Is it already available as OFX plugin for Vegas Pro 21?

2)

I wonder if I should buy Mercalli V6 SAL Window as a alternative. I have been using Topaz Video Enhance AI to stabilize my footage with using AI. In Topaz software I export them to AV1 codec with 180 Mbps bitrate and 10 bits color depth. The video output quality is perfect, but I noticed that Topaz software gives some unnatural glitches on output stabilized footage which annoys me.

Does Mercalli V6 SAL software works based on AI? Topaz Video Enhance AI give little crop and stabilized output footage is perfect. But I hate these glitches. Does Mercalli V6 SAL software give possibility to output to AV1 codec with even so high bitrate (180 Mbps bitrate) and 10 bits color depth and export output video with no glitches and little crop?

What is currently the best software to stabilize footage using AI. Maybe you know something better than Mercalli V6 SAL and Topaz Video Enhance AI?

Thank you in advance for your replies.

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Dexcon wrote on 5/23/2024, 5:56 PM

@marcinzm  ... Please refer to ProDad's Mercalli webpage as some of the information you are seeking is clearly given there about Mercalli plugins and AI.

In a nutshell, there is no Mercalli 6 plugin for Vegas Pro (whether there will be is a question you will need to put to ProDad as it is that company's product); and Mercalli 6 SAL does use AI.

What is currently the best software to stabilize footage using AI. Maybe you know something better than Mercalli V6 SAL and Topaz Video Enhance AI?

From my comment in this thread a couple of months ago:

  • There is no be-all-and-end-all program/plugin with stabilisation IMO. Each program/plugin has its own advantages and disadvantages. Mercalli is the best for general stabilisation but sometimes either Vegas Pro's stabiliser or DaVinci Resolve's stabiliser provides a better result - and in some cases BorisFX's Mocha Pro gives the best result with a particularly difficult stabilisation requirement. For example with a close shot on a flag fluttering in the wind, a broad-based stabiliser like Mercalli will try to follow the fluttering flag which invariably dramatically worsens the image. Whereas in Mocha Pro, a spline can be used around the flagpole (not including the fluttering flag) and Mocha's stabilisation will then just focus on stabilising the flagpole. I've done this a few times and the results are excellent.

IMO, just because a product claims to use AI doesn't necessarily make it better than a non-AI version. I've got Mercalli 6 SAL but don't like it and rarely use it. Rather, I prefer and still use Mercalli 5 SAL as, for me, it provides much, much better results than does Mercalli 6 SAL

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 5/24/2024, 6:15 PM

Doesn't really matter much at this point if they wanna make Mercalli 6 available for Vegas Pro, because it offers no significant advantage over Mercalli 5.

3POINT wrote on 5/25/2024, 12:15 AM

Doesn't really matter much at this point if they wanna make Mercalli 6 available for Vegas Pro, because it offers no significant advantage over Mercalli 5.

For the situations I (still) use Mercalli plugin 4 in Vegas, I don't see a different or better stabilization result when using Mercalli 5 or Mercalli 6 SAL.

Dexcon wrote on 5/25/2024, 1:27 AM

For the situations I (still) use Mercalli plugin 4 in Vegas, I don't see a different or better stabilization result when using Mercalli 5 or Mercalli 6 SAL.

With Mercalli 4 SAL there was a free upgrade to Mercalli 5 SAL in February 2020 with the accompanying ProDad information stating that there were no feature updates, only technological updates. I suspect that would have been the same with Mercalli 4 & 5 plugins for Vegas Pro. I tried the trial version of the Merc 5 Vegas Pro plugin and couldn't indentify any differencce between 4 and 5, so I stayed with the Merc 4 plugin. Nonetheless, I much prefer the SAL version.

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3POINT wrote on 5/25/2024, 3:14 AM

For the situations I (still) use Mercalli plugin 4 in Vegas, I don't see a different or better stabilization result when using Mercalli 5 or Mercalli 6 SAL.

With Mercalli 4 SAL there was a free upgrade to Mercalli 5 SAL in February 2020 with the accompanying ProDad information stating that there were no feature updates, only technological updates. I suspect that would have been the same with Mercalli 4 & 5 plugins for Vegas Pro. I tried the trial version of the Merc 5 Vegas Pro plugin and couldn't indentify any differencce between 4 and 5, so I stayed with the Merc 4 plugin. Nonetheless, I much prefer the SAL version.

I prefer to use the plugin because in Vegas I can better decide which part of a clip I need and need to be stabilized. Besides time saving batch stabilization it also does not have the render generation loss of the SAL version.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 12/23/2024, 1:26 PM

They now offer official support of Prodad Mercalli 6 OFX for Vegas Pro on their website.

Reyfox wrote on 12/23/2024, 4:38 PM

I have Mercalli V6 standalone and V5 Suite plugin for Vegas and Magix. I went to proDAD's website and didn't see a price for it.

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