Simple editing can be creative

Gid wrote on 7/29/2022, 7:37 AM

Not my video, copied from FB but i just wanted to share that simple editing can be creative & original,

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Dexcon wrote on 7/29/2022, 8:16 AM

That video is very clever, but ...

I can understand 9:16 advertising displays at bus/tram stops, shopping malls, etc - they make sense. But I simply do not understand why so, so many people use their phones vertically (9:16) rather than simply twisting the phone 90 degrees and getting 16:9 which will display as a full image on their home TVs. With 9:16, then come the "why the black bars on my TV?" complaints. And anyway, it's a waste of the phone's resolution. Filming vertically on a phone's camera means that the vertical rez in 4k - 3840 - shrinks to 2160 when displayed on a 16:9 TV (that's the vertical rez on a 4K display). And the horizontal rez (2160 on the phone) shrinks to 56% of the 16:9 TV's horizontal rez. If filming 9:16 specifically for a 9:16 display, then there is no problem at all.

Unfortunately, I think that many phone customers are heavily influenced by the sales pitch of "the phone does 4K", but simply don't understand how to best use the phone's camera to get the best out of that 4K image. But I guess that those people would be satisfied going to the cinema and watching 'Top Gun: Maverick' in 9:16 rather than 2.39:1. Somehow, I think not.

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Gid wrote on 7/29/2022, 8:43 AM

@Dexcon Yep, viewing on a monitor 9:16 is rubbish but a lot of these videos are for mobile phone users who don't want to rotate their phones, they don't care about quality, On my phone if i rotate to 16:9 i can't swipe or scroll to the next vid, in some ways you get a better image in portrait mode, as the content tends to be people wanting to show their body as well as their face at close quarters, occasionally when filming my work i have to go to portrait to get all the content in when filming in a room, even stood with my back against the wall sometimes i can't get everything in in 16:9.

This is my phone, i'm rotating the phone

PS, In case you find it of any interest, this is the MediaInfo on that screen recording, I often read on here that variable frame rate doesn't do well in Vegas, this is 'slightly' variable 🤣 It plays no prob in Vegas , Samsung S21 Ultra

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set wrote on 7/29/2022, 8:55 AM

As for the content: interesting 👍

 

TikTok forces you to view videos in 9:16. Also before TikTok, if I remember, SnapChat as well.

And now Instagram Reel videos also forces you to view only in 9:16 as well.

Then, people are spending less-time watching 16:9 TV but more time watching 9:16 social media videos.

I need to be more flexible between the two now:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/post-your-vegas-creations--109464/?page=29#ca850157

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/post-your-vegas-creations--109464/?page=30#ca851712

Reyfox wrote on 7/29/2022, 11:04 AM

I guess I am just too old. A dinosaur of sorts. Shooting in Portrait mode just isn't for me. Sorry. I still find it irritating watching videos that are shot in that aspect ratio, especially on my computer monitors or flat tv.

But that is an off topic comment in the off topic forum. As for the video, yes, creative and certainly you can see how it was done.

DMT3 wrote on 7/29/2022, 5:18 PM

I have seen this technique used several times dating back to the 70s. Fun and a lot of work.

todd-b wrote on 7/29/2022, 8:44 PM

Another simple one that requires less physical effort. One of the first ever Vegas tutorials I watched was about this. This guy's masked images are soft for whatever reason

I have a 27inch monitor that stays permanently in portrait mode. When editing a portrait video I use that monitor to display the preview. I really dislike editing portrait on a landscape monitor

Musicvid wrote on 8/4/2022, 8:02 PM

The interesting thing about most of these 9:16 wonders is that the editing and effects are done entirely in-device; the videos never see a desktop computer before being uploaded. In the hands of creators, their iOS apps do in minutes what would take us PC guys hours.

Reyfox wrote on 8/5/2022, 4:31 AM

@Musicvid and that also extends to photo apps on the phones.

Gid wrote on 8/5/2022, 5:10 PM

@todd-b @set @Reyfox @Musicvid @Dexcon @DMT3

Hi, yep i see a lot of posts are edited on a phone, amazing what can be done, after playing with Mocha Pro & seeing some of the tracking for the face filters is surprisingly good for phone apps , looking at other vids from this man i believe he has done it on a pc & some software tho,

On a separate but related note & the reason i tagged everyone, this video was on FB, it annoyed one or two people inc myself, because the music just didn't sync right with the action on screen, I can't describe it you'll have to watch my vid,

My question is reg Vegas is, I created a marker for the video, when i zoom in on the timeline to move the audio track in relation to the video to get the timing, press play & the timeline slider & media scrolls with the cursor, i loose my position, If i click on the timeline slider i can stop it scrolling & find my position again, then drag the audio left or right as i wish whilst playing, but i have to search for that position each time a press play, (I can press 1 & it takes me to that point, I can then adjust the loop play area & zoom back in without loosing position, that works fine) but is there a way to stop the media/timeline slider moving when i've initially zoomed in & press play, like if i didn't have a marker i wouldn't be able to just press 1,

(btw, when i uploaded to FB the sync wasn't quite the same as i saw on my pc, i rendered out 15+ times, each time shifting the audio a bit & edited/uploaded my comment of FB 5-6 times, it was still slightly out but in the end i just let it be as is in this vid)

 

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DMT3 wrote on 8/5/2022, 5:27 PM

I don't think there is a way to stop it scrolling, but if you need to preview that one area, try hitting the 0 button on your keypad.

 

Reyfox wrote on 8/6/2022, 5:38 AM

@Gid, if I want to replay or go back to the same location the cursor was, I use the spacebar to play the timeline. Press it again, and it will start from the location where you had the cursor. I go between the carriage return or spacebar, depending on my needs.

Dexcon wrote on 8/6/2022, 6:11 AM

@Gid  ,,. I'm not if this is what you might be looking for, but if "Make spacebar and F12/ Paly/Pause instead of Paly/Stop" is unchecked in Options/Preferences/General (tab), the cursor returns to its start position when you stop play on the timeline.

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Gid wrote on 8/6/2022, 6:48 AM

@DMT3 Thanks, that doesn't help with this but nice to know 👍

@Reyfox @Dexcon Where the play starts isn't much of a prob in this situation, but on the preview i have not inc Stop as i often want to cursor to stop where it is when i'm playing, not return to the orig start position, i hit the Stop button & that pis*ed me off so haven't included it

having the spacebar do the same Play/Pause is good 👍 but I like to have the option, i can pause using the on screen Preview buttons or as you say spacebar stops & returns to orig start position, again not too helpful in this situation, thanks,

I've got to go to work so will make a shorter vid later,

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