Sony PAL DVCAM users: a question for you

SonyEPM wrote on 9/24/2004, 7:43 AM
Hi-

If you have used any of the following PAL Sony devices with Vegas 5:

- DSR-250P
- DSR-PDX10P
- DSR-45P

...we'd like some feedback on your experience with Vegas 5 and these specific DV devices. We have not had any negative reports sent to customer service but we'd like to confirm that all is working well for you especially re capture, print to tape, and external monitor. Please send system specs including OS version, device model, Vegas version # to:

Dr.Dropout[AT]sonypictures.com

If you have suggestions for future improvements in Vegas based on your use of these particular devices, please let us know!

Thanks-

Vegas Engineering

Comments

mark30 wrote on 9/24/2004, 9:31 AM
You know for that MTV try-out I started using the 45. I only had the chance to capture but that worked fine.

I myself use the dsr-11 like many of us..
mark
PDB wrote on 9/24/2004, 11:28 AM
Dr. Dropout,

I have not used a dvcam machine...HOWEVER, as many have already mentioned since Vegas 3, there still remains the bug in the capture module by which if the "minimum clip length" is selected (which it is by deafault), no clips are captured....Please correct his for all us Pal users!! (jvc dvp5 and Panasonic agdvx 100e both Pal here...)

Thanks in advance,

Paul.
farss wrote on 9/24/2004, 3:36 PM
We have DSR-45P and DSR-250P, I can specifically try it out next weekend if you like, currently using DSR-11 to capture PAL DVCAM with no issues.

One issue I could foresee with DSR-45 is it's fairly big on 16/32K audio and THAT is an issue with Vegas. At the moment the only way I could layoff 4 tracks of audio to the 45 would be via its analogue inputs which does seem a bit archaic. I've never had to do this but if I'd bought a 45 (and I don't know why I'd buy one if I'm working on a modern NLE) I guess it could be handy.

I can report I have had issues with older Sony kit and Vegas but I'm suspecting the issues are with the cameras firewire implementation and not Vegas. If the camera is the only firewire device then all is well but using it in conjunction with the M-Audio Firewire 410 things can get screwed up completely, both devices on separate 1394 ports BTW.

Bob.
mfhau wrote on 1/18/2005, 12:39 AM
DSR-PDX10P - It's a nightmare on some PCs - totally hangs the system.
And the sound - Mono only has that been fixed yet.

I find this disturbing that a Sony Camera does not work with Sony software.

Is anybody working on this problem?
Vulcan wrote on 1/18/2005, 4:07 PM
I own the PDX10P and exept for the fact that you can't capture stereo sound (recorded through the build in stereo mic) it works like charm. However, I understand that this is an issue with Premiere as well. Beacause of this I use Scenalyser as capture program (inexpensive program).


fixler wrote on 1/24/2005, 3:11 PM
Have the problems with the PDX10p been resolved in Vegas 5.0d?
fixler wrote on 1/24/2005, 6:17 PM
Mono audio right...
mfhau wrote on 2/9/2005, 12:49 AM
Just want to keep this on the agenda:
The way I see it is that the Vegas guys are masters of sound amongst other things.
Only problem is SONY Vegas can't capture the sound from this SONY camera properly which I think is embaressing for SONY.

The manual for the camera clearly states that input through INPUT1 goes to channel 1 and input through INPUT2 goes to channel 2 - so using a stereo mike with the correct cable - what do I get - something that SONY can't handle it appears.

If I buy Sony Software and Sony hardware I really don't expect to have to go to a very commendable third party - namely scenealyzer - to get the software I need to capture my stereo/2xmono tracks. (I will pay scenalyzer as it gets the job done).

Would someone from Sony pls respond to this - the lack of response is curious.
gordyboy wrote on 2/9/2005, 3:08 AM
mfhau writes

"Only problem is SONY Vegas can't capture the sound from this SONY camera properly which I think is embaressing for SONY"

Well of course Sony didn't always own the company did they? Vegas is a Sonic Foundry product that they bought... by buying the company.

Not that the bug isn't embarassing for Sony now or downright annoying.

gb
farss wrote on 2/9/2005, 3:42 AM
Given that Vegas isn't the only NLE having an issue with this camera it does seem to be more of a camera problem. We need to bear in mind that the division of Sony that makes the camera isn't exactly joined at the hip with the one that makes Vegas. Same goes for the division that makes the VAIO laptops, they ship Premiere with them!
And if you see a Sony HDV camera at a trade show they might tell you the best NLE to use is.... Pinnacle or at one recent trade show I was at they'll tell you "sorry you can't edit HDV yet". Yet less than 100 yards away was the local Vegas distributor demoing Vegas editing HDV, go figure.
Bob.
Mahesh wrote on 2/9/2005, 7:18 AM
I recall a similar post last year by Dr Dropout which I had replied to and copy below.
As others have said, Vegas has problem with DSR200 and PDX10 as captured audio is mono only.
The othe rirritating problem is that vegas holds the playback device (DSR20P in my case ) in pause mode at the end of capture adinfinitum.
For the above 2 reasons, I use Sceneanalizer all the time.
Jsnkc wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:37 AM
We use Vegas with the DSR-2000 and the DSR-45 all the time and don't have any problems. They aren't the PAL versions though.