"Investigate the product Vegasaur if you would like to see some versatility between usage of NLE titles and DVDAPro subtitles."

Subtitle files re not just for discs. They can be used inside streaming files too.... MKV... M2TS...

As far as I know there is no direct way to import subtitle files. If there is some indirect way then I would love to know too!

Captions ( some may call them subtitles?) are a different animal all together from the subject of subtitles in DVD and Blu-ray discs.
So the terms are not so precise as everyone will know which direction you are speaking.

In the SCS forums we are usually talking about subtitles as a part of the workflow from the VegasPro NLE to DVDAPro. Vegasaur is a unique bridging product for working with text in that workflow.

Granted captions can be a part of a broadcasting requirement and MPEG2 streams which might be edited in VegasPro. And there are the caption requirements unique to web video streams that you might see on utube or vimeo. I call these elements " captions" technology.....

"It`s possible import a subtitle .srt, .sub to a video in timeline?"

Subtitles, in the sense of what you see on a DVD, are a completely different animal. They behave like an additional video layer that you can show or hide via settings on your DVD player. If you encoded the equivalent text into a video using Sony Vegas Pro, it would be part of the single video stream and could not be optionally hidden.

I don't have any subtitle files to experiment with but Pro 10 claims to be able to import them.
From the Help file:

If your media does not contain embedded captioning markers, you can import markers from an external file. The following file types are supported:
Scenarist Closed Caption (.SCC)
If an .scc file matches the media file name, the captions will be read automatically when you load a file.
For example, if your video file is wildflowers.avi, naming your captioning file wildflowers.avi.scc will allow Vegas Pro to read the captions automatically.
RealPlayer Captioning Files (.RT)
SubRip Subtitles (.SRT)
Windows Media Player Captioning Files (.SMI)
Transcript or QuickTime Captioning Files (.TXT)

CPC MacCaption Files (.MCC)
If an .mcc file does not contain CEA608 captions, its CEA708 captions will be converted to CEA608 pop-up captions. Service 1 captions will be imported as 608CC1 captions, and Service 2 captions will be imported as 608CC3 captions.

DVD Architect Subtitles (.SUB)
From the File menu, choose Import, and then choose Closed Captioning from the submenu.
In the Open dialog, browse to the file you want to use and click Open.
The markers appear as command markers on the timeline, and you can move and edit the markers as needed.
Captioning markers will be placed according to the timecode in the captioning file. If needed, you can adjust marker positions by applying a timeline ruler offset before importing the closed captioning.

Mike

To RS170A - for heavens sake - read the two or three previous posts in this thread. The Help file is what is - and it is just getting closed captions confused with subtitles - they are different animals!!

A few ideas. These are close to being workable, but someone else will have to fill in the blanks.

1. You can use Subtitle Workshop to convert subtitles into any form you want. If you select "Sonic DVD Creator" when you "Save As," it will create subtitles that can be imported directly into DVD Architect.

2. Once in DVD Architect, you can export the subtitles as Regions that can be imported into Vegas. To import into Vegas, open the exported file in Notepad, select all, and Copy. Then, in Vegas, use the Region view in the Edit Detail box. Click on the little area in the upper left corner of the Region spreadsheet and then Ctrl-V to paste the regions.

3. You can then use a script to convert the regions into dummy subclips and put them into each region on a new timeline. I thought I had this script, but can't find it right now. The script would label the subclip with the subtitle text, adding a number to avoid duplicates.

4. You then edit, making sure to always edit the subclip (a.k.a. subtitle) so that it moves around with whatever you are doing to the main video and audio. This is going to be the tough part, no matter what.



Another possibility would be to render the subtitles into a dummy video file using the Close Caption capability. Edit this dummy file as a proxy. Export the dummy file and do a CC to Subtitle conversion. Then, use a proxy script to change the proxy back to the real video file.

"Subtitles, in the sense of what you see on a DVD, are a completely different animal. They behave like an additional video layer that you can show or hide via settings on your DVD player. If you encoded the equivalent text into a video using Sony Vegas Pro, it would be part of the single video stream and could not be optionally hidden."

Again... completely and totally untrue. The line between "captions" and "subtitles" is so blurred now that there is really no sense in trying to differentiate and that's because we no longer live in a world restricted to disc playback. There are now a wide variety of playback methods which can mimic a disc exactly with no disc in sight.

But more to the point, the use of subtitles has extended into to the world of streaming and hard drive playback. Such containers as m2ts and mkv FULLY support the use of subtitle files and Various media streaming devices like Boxxee Box, WD TV Live, Roku... etc all FULLY support subtitle files... and yes that includes turning them off/on, switching from english to french... etc

Sony AVHCD cams in fact produce a subtitle file (.SUP) within its MTS container of each clip.... and that's part of (my) problem... Vegas does not see subtitle files on import on even its own line of cameras so the time and date within the subtitle file goes into thin air. If I playback that MTS clip in any player (software or hardware) which supports subtitle playback, then I can see the time and date. But if I import that clip to vegas, the time and date are gone because vegas cannot read the SUP file. And of course it also lacks the ability to produce a M2TS file on export with a subtitle file contained.

Vegas is behind the times with subtitle files. This is no longer just a dvd/blu ray thing for DVDarchitect. Vegas needs to be able to handle these files directly in order to properly deal with files destined for streaming or hard drive.

"DVD Architect Subtitles (.SUB)

Now this SORT of works, but it's a long process. I have to use TSmuxeR to demux and isolate my SUP file, convert it to SRT or SUB then import as a "caption". It shows up on the time line in terms of blue makers with the contents of the subtitle as the name of the marker, but does not show up in the preview window.

The process is too long as well. Great for one or two clips, but when you have 2 or 3 thousand to do....

videoITguy, I did read all the posts. I also read the first line in the OP's question where he asked It`s possible import a subtitle .
I pointed out that Vegas has the ability to import both file types.
He's the only one who knows whether he means CC or subtitles and, since he hasn't been back to confirm this, we can only guess and offer suggestions which I did.

Mike

"Subtitles, in the sense of what you see on a DVD, are a completely different animal. They behave like an additional video layer that you can show or hide via settings on your DVD player. If you encoded the equivalent text into a video using Sony Vegas Pro, it would be part of the single video stream and could not be optionally hidden.

Rob Franks, you completely missed my point. Their was a comment made about using lower thirds or encoding text into the video stream. Yes, this could achieve the effect of a subtitle, but I was simply pointing out that unlike a subtitle, it could not be disabled. And that is completely and totally true.

@joseartur

Vegasaur have a couple of tools that can import .srt and .sub subtitles and create text events or closed captions, convert closed captions and regions to text events and more.