I think we understand eachother here. When I wrote "should" it was in the "mimic analog" way of thinking I meant. I agree that new tools should give new ways of being able to work, not just copy the old abilities and restrictions.

But is there any difference to the problem if the return signal is 100% wet, or if it is set to 50% dry and 50% wet? Cause if you send a mono signal to a stereo reverb, and the source is panned anyway but center, if the return consists of both dry and wet signals, the dry will appear on center - destroying the initial placement of the sound. To get rid of this the effect return must be all wet.
Or do I still don't get the problem?

I'm not really sure what you mean by " the source is panned anyway but center", but It's not really a matter of wet or dry returns.
If you have any effect on a bus of FX bus it has a stereo input. When you SEND (not assign) a track to the bus, and the track is panned, the panning is not reflected in the input to the bus. In other words the bus input is mono centered, unless you are sending a stereo track to it.

If you still don't see it, it may help to look at the "Audio Signal Flow" diagrams from the ver4 and ver5 manuals. You can clearly see the difference in where the panning occurs.

At least we have some sort of workaround, and I hope we will see it revert to the original way in a future versioin. Although, we still have no explaination for what seems like a deliberate change to the routing. I would love to know more about why this was done. SONY?

"Cause if you send a mono signal to a stereo reverb"

We are assuming here that the reverb unit is accepting a stereo signal, which is clearly an option in the analog realm. Look at the back of your effects box, it most likely will have two inputs: left (mono) AND right.

But that's not really the issue we're discussing here. We are talking about how a track is delivered to a bus and how vegas now assumes it to be centered. I don't know of any mixer in the analog realm that behaves this way by default.

What happens if the track is sent to the bus without any effect on the bus?
Still centered?

yes

My brother who uses Vegas called me about this panning issue. It doesn't even need effects to not work correctly. I did a simple test. Put a different loop on two tracks. Panned 1 left and 2 right. Perfect. Sent them both to bus A. Panned bus Left. You can still hear track two. Even muting doesn't help.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I HAVE A BUNCH OF VEGAS 4 MIXES.

What good are busses if they put all your panned tracks to center? I guess we're supposed to do 1 track 1 bus now.

Very annoying, Sony.

Holy crap! I'm just starting to get how significant this is! Are you all saying that if I put a panning envelope on a bus track that the render will not follow the envelope moves??

drbam

This is the brother of Dekrink here: When I called my brother last night he most likely could tell that I was pretty bummed out about this. I have been logging a ton of hours on a music project. I have had to re-work a bunch of tracks. Human ears and perceptions can be fooled into believing something is real (a panned track) when it is not. I cancelled out some busses and it helped the tracks come to life.

I do like Vegas but this throws me into a bummed state of mind.

I'm waiting for a fix and update. Hopefully not long?
Dog bait!

Lost on a old Greyhound BUS.......
Ateembo

for now, throw the sony pan plugin on the track and you can get it going but UGH!!!!!!

decrink and Ateembo

In your experiment, you are using the wrong pan law to pull off what you are trying

right click the bus fader's pan and choose any of the "balance" settings