Who was able to set up CineForm in vegas 21?

gorGaram schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 12:42 Uhr

Tell me where to download what from, how to install and configure it. Thanks.

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Dexcon schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 13:04 Uhr

My understanding is that GoPro CineForm is an open source video code, not a video OFX plugin. Video codecs are built in to Vegas Pro as part of its program and aren't able to be user-installed as can be done with OFX and VST plugins. You can put in a feature request to the Vegas team asking that they look at whether CineForm can be added as a codec to Vegas Pro - https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-feature-requests--134374/?page=24 - in a future version of Vegas Pro.

Otherwise, you might want to search online for another program where CineForm can be used and then export for use in Vegas Pro. An internet search came up with https://gopro-cineform-studio.en.lo4d.com/windows but I have no knowledge of it so can't attest to its use or effectiveness.

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Wolfgang S. schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 13:37 Uhr

The decoding of Cineform has been implemented years ago in Vegas. To allow 10bit editing.

Since Cineform was sold - also years ago - to GoPro, you have to install the Cineform codec in your system. That happened by installing GoPro Studio.

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Wolfgang S. schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 13:47 Uhr

But the other question is: why do you need the Cineform codec? It was a great choice to transform footage like HEVC to a better footage for editing years ago. But today I would test if my systems can decode the footage directly. There have been significant improvements for HEVC, for example.

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gorGaram schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 13:51 Uhr

The decoding of Cineform has been implemented years ago in Vegas. To allow 10bit editing.

Since Cineform was sold - also years ago - to GoPro, you have to install the Cineform codec in your system. That happened by installing GoPro Studio.

The codec is installed, it is visible in the system as registered.

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gorGaram schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 13:52 Uhr

But the other question is: why do you need the Cineform codec? It was a great choice to transform footage like HEVC to a better footage for editing years ago. But today I would test if my systems can decode the footage directly. There have been significant improvements for HEVC, for example.

Alternatively, output with an alpha channel.

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Wolfgang S. schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 14:07 Uhr

Ok. If the codec is installed, what is then your questionn?

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gorGaram schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 14:13 Uhr

Ok. If the codec is installed, what is then your questionn?



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Dexcon schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 14:28 Uhr

Is there a particular reason that you want to use Cineform for alpha rather than a standard Video for Windows template with the Video Format Field set to 'Uncompressed' and the alpha checkbox ticked (as it is in your pic upload)? The Apple ProRes render option also does alpha. But in both cases, the rendered files are large.

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gorGaram schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 14:32 Uhr

Is there a particular reason that you want to use Cineform for alpha rather than a standard Video for Windows template with the Video Format Field set to 'Uncompressed' and the alpha checkbox ticked (as it is in your pic upload)? The Apple ProRes render option also does alpha. But in both cases, the rendered files are large.

"...But in both cases, the rendered files are large."
For this reason and for speed.

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RogerS schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 14:47 Uhr

ProRes and MagicYUV are great modern codecs that perform well.

gorGaram schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 15:40 Uhr

ProRes and MagicYUV are great modern codecs that perform well.

ProRes files are much larger in size, the bitrate is higher, and it is not configurable.
MagicYUV is not free.

Zuletzt geändert von gorGaram am 02.05.2024, 15:41, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.

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