I see it too, and hope it will be fixed soon.
I am with you Lars, Vegas is such a great application, and you can do so much great stuff so easy and in no time.
I use SHIFT+B a lot on transitions and effects, especially on HD projects.

/Ulf

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Subpixel rendering.

Without this feature, the renderer has to truncate to the nearest whole pixel in steps.

Adobe has it, Avid has it, Apple has it. Sony must have thought that you should go to After Effects for this.

You can try tinkering with different rates of movement until you find one (or in this case, two: vertical and horizontal) that doesn't jump. Also solvable with a bit of math.

Here's a good Wikipedia article on subpixel rendering.

Note especially the example text animations on the left.

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Your output frame rates can be be anything you want if you're outputting to the web say, where there are no fixed frame rates.

TV and film has 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, etc. and you can't avoid those.

So, what can you change?

You can change the rate of pixel movement in your animations to be a multiple of the frame rate.

In your case, it sounded like this would need to be handled for both vertical and horizontal movement.

It doesn't matter whether your relative movement is caused by zooming, lateral movement or vertical scrolling. It's all the same.

Are you saying that VLC and WMP are playing this back perfectly?

If so, are they playing back Vegas-rendered footage that looked wobbly in Vegas?

What frame rate was used?

The players could potentially use frame interpolation to add subpixel accuracy of movement on playback.

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Well, I am beginning to to think that we are talking about different things.

Here are my new assumptions about what you are saying:

1. Your test project is 23.976 progressive.

2. It stutters when viewing it in Vegas' preview.

3. If you render your Vegas-stuttering project to an AVI or MOV file and play that file in VLC or WMP, everything looks fine.

If those assumptions are correct, you have a situation that is common to all NLEs (although Avid does the best job of hiding it): you can't judge much of anything in the "viewer/canvas," this is just a simplified periscope with other design objectives.

If you are going to work with troublesome footage, you need to use a proper video output card and a broadcast monitor or a TV. For progressive footage, this means an AJA card (or BMD depending on Vegas version), and using an output signal that is not a "computer" output signal.

(If you want to do true monitoring to broadcast standards, you need a special monitor such as the HP DreamColor ($2K street), and even then there is much work left to do. See this article for more on this.)

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I've been using BMD Decklink Extreme cards for input and monitoring for four years.

You didn't say if my assumptions were correct, that is important for determining what will work for you.

If outside players (VLC, WMP, ...) do not stutter, but Vegas does, then a card hooked up to a broadcast video monitor (or a TV) should take care of the display issues.

If you're using Vegas 9, you may be better off with an AJA card, although I have been worried about Vegas' support for professional I/O cards, as the support seems a bit wobbly. You need to investigate this further.

Not many people in this forum use anything else but regular computer monitors hooked up to a regular computer graphics card using signals that are very different from non-computer video formats in several ways. Format translation can handle some of the issues but not all, so critical monitoring is not possible with say an 8800 card.

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