100% CPU Usage

Jeff_Smith wrote on 9/11/2009, 5:43 PM
I have a 2.4GHz CoreDuo, XP SP2. I am using Vegas 8c with no other applications running. I checked the task manager while rendering HDV video to mp4. I have constant 100% CPU Usage, 1.93GB Page File. 43 processes are running, but mostly small ones. Of the 4GB memory 3.08 total shows, 1.04 available, system cache 2.08. My renders stop sometimes before it finishes, but if I end some processes and services it seems OK, but still running at 100% CPU usage. Is this normal? Thanks,
Jeff

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rmack350 wrote on 9/11/2009, 5:53 PM
That's a big page file, especially if you're killing processes before the render. I'm thinking that if the page file is that big then the render is probably running out of RAM.

You don't need a high preview RAM setting for a render so you might knock that down to something very modest.

100% cpu usage is probably good. Most people complain if Vegas isn't pegging the CPU.

Rob
Jeff_Smith wrote on 9/11/2009, 6:09 PM
I set my video preview window to Preview(Auto) and minimize Vegas while rendereing. My Dynamic RAM is set to 800 with a Max available of 1024 with 4 threads. Should I lower that?
Jeff
srode wrote on 9/11/2009, 6:36 PM
you can lower it to 0 when rendering but if you are using your CPU 100% I don't think you will see any gain as your RAM is keeping your CPU fed with data to work with and you aren't choked by drive write speed.
Jeff_Smith wrote on 9/11/2009, 8:17 PM
I will try that. I was just wondering if 100% CPU is OK and if not is there a way to lower it so I have some reserve for other things? I like to surf the web and do email while rendering. Launching outlook and Firefox while rendering sometimes results in Vegas aborting the render. I only have this issue with HDV video which is pretty much all I use now.
musicvid10 wrote on 9/11/2009, 8:44 PM
Don't multitask while you render. It's not worth the risk of a glitch.
Close unneeded background applications.
100% CPU usage is normal, since it is usually the "bottleneck" in many systems; it must handle the most operations in the least amount of time to attempt to keep up.
If you had a 4 inch pipe with a 1 inch section in the middle, which part would stay 100% full all the time?
Get another computer for your routine surfing and playing, or assign the rendering to another machine on the network.
Jeff_Smith wrote on 9/11/2009, 9:03 PM
Good plumbing analogy. I am still working on the concept of which direction things flow. The CPU thing was confusing to me because I have read about folks complaining about low CPU usage while mine is pegged. After a few unsuccessful renders I started using my iPhone for internet stuff. I need a new editing computer and keep this one for other tasks. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Jeff
Chienworks wrote on 9/11/2009, 9:06 PM
Actually there's about 0% risk of other operations causing a glitch in a render. It's not a real-time operation like capturing and printing to tape. I regularly use my main workstation for dozens of other tasks while the render is going on and it never causes any problems, other than making the render take a tiny bit longer.

Try setting the process priority of Vegas to "below normal" while rendering and that will allow other programs to run unimpeded. Vegas will simply and politely step aside, lowering it's CPU usage while other things run. However, since the render will still probably be the most CPU intensive task running, the render probably won't be slowed down much at all.
musicvid10 wrote on 9/11/2009, 9:47 PM
Actually there's about 0% risk of other operations causing a glitch in a render.

I guess it depends on the system resources available and threads. On my oldest single core desktop, I can't open my browser during an audio render without it causing a glitch in the output. Last time I opened my email during a video render (some years ago) it froze a 20-hour render in its tracks.

On my newer core duo laptop, however, I can merrily surf the web, even compose a Word document with both cores pegged at 100% while rendering. However, if it's something important or going to be a lengthy render, I assign it to another computer on the network and go on about my business.
Brad C. wrote on 9/11/2009, 11:48 PM
AVC render from yesterday. 3ghz quadcore. Simple transitions, some audio work, and heavy grading with Bullet.

CPU Meter:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/brizzad79/AVCRender.png
Jeff_Smith wrote on 9/12/2009, 7:45 PM
Kelly, I gave that a try. I had Vegas set at a high process priority so I lowered it. Now the CPU usage bops around between 60 and 100%. My page file is still at 1.8GB, however I have outlook and firefox running. Thanks for the suggestion, I am not too concerned with a slower render if I can safely work on other things.
Jeff
Soniclight wrote on 9/12/2009, 9:20 PM
Brad,

I liked the AVC CPU image you have and am curious if that's a separate utility or in-Vegas or ? I've been using a little freeware called Cool Beans for almost 10 years and it works fine. But I like your meter even better :)

Short version: Where could I get one of those?
Thanks.

LATER EDIT: I Googled around and found out about Sony AVC Encoder and so I figure that's GUI meter is part of that. So never mind :)