8c VS 9c

JHendrix wrote on 12/18/2009, 1:10 PM
tryin to get up to speed here....saw someone say 8c VS 9c....8c wins for editing


I just tried it and 8c did seem to play the AVCHD better...will that hold true even if I upgrade to 64 bit OS and 9c 64?

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xberk wrote on 12/18/2009, 2:51 PM
Not in my experience. I like 9.0c 64 bit for AVCHD but 9.0c 64 has some basic problems with jpg and png files so, at present, I'd use 8.0c for AVCHD and 9.0b 64 otherwise.

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LReavis wrote on 12/18/2009, 4:46 PM
9b probably is better for editing than 9c, but I have problems rendering my complex .VEGs in 9b; 9c-64 solved my rendering problems. Because I'm not able to have both 9b-64 and 9c-64, I edit in 8c, then render in 9c.

Occasionally I still have to do editing chores in 9c-64 - like when I want to render files from my Sanyo cams to an intermediate such as Cineform codec, or when I want to pan across a huge still. For simple things like these, 9c-64 works great, whereas 8c doesn't work at all.
JHendrix wrote on 12/18/2009, 6:59 PM
well I am clearly going to have to do something other than what I am doing now. (stuck in vista 32 with 8-32 or 9-32)

the prob Im having is I have 3 types of media.

P2- works fine and plays well with HDV
HDV- works fine and plays well with P2

AVCHD- when I place the AVCHD on tracks in a session along with the P2 and HDV it completely whacks Vegas out and become instant crash fest...I can not edit one thing let alone keep the app open!!!???


Problem Description
Application Name: Vegas Pro
Application Version: Version 9.0b (Build 772)
Problem: Unmanaged Exception (0xc0000005)
Fault Module: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 9.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\m2tsplug\mcstdh264dec.dll
Fault Address: 0x381BC314
Fault Offset: 0x0000C314

Fault Process Details
Process Path: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 9.0\vegas90.exe
Process Version: Version 9.0b (Build 772)
Process Description: Vegas Pro
Process Image Date: 2009-08-25 (Tue Aug 25) 21:49:52
Kit wrote on 12/19/2009, 5:46 AM
Is there anything that Vegas 9 can do that Vegas 8 can't. I'm pondering the deal of the century.

Thanks,

Kit
LReavis wrote on 12/19/2009, 9:23 AM
"Is there anything that Vegas 9 can do that Vegas 8 can't."

As I mentioned on several other threads, Vegas 8 cannot handle large stills, so I must pan/crop in 9x, then render to an .AVI for placement on the 8c timeline. Moreover, 9 can work with codecs that won't work in 8 - so I use 9c to render my Sanyo files to an intermediate codec, such as Cineform or PicVid, then bring them back into 8 for editing.

When finished editing in 8c, I save under a new filename and open in 9c for rendering. 9c is the first version of Vegas that can render all of my long, complex videos (at least, all that I've tried so far).
JHendrix wrote on 12/19/2009, 4:06 PM
I might have to go that route....render to cineform from 9c and edit in 8c (i have some big stills too plus Im considering using some REALLY big QuickTime screen capture movies to pan and scan...you ever done that?
ingvarai wrote on 12/20/2009, 6:10 AM
Version 9 adds a lot of new features. Sound mixing is enhanced, and here is something about color management:
http://www.glennchan.info/articles/vegas/v8color/vegas-9-levels.htm
"Color Spaces / Levels in Vegas 9. Vegas 8 and 9 handle levels very differently"

> I just tried it and 8c did seem to play the AVCHD better...
I wonder why so many think this. I am a happy using version 9 for AVCHD editing.

Ingvar
JHendrix wrote on 12/20/2009, 6:55 AM
thanks but before i can get to color spaces I have to be able to run the app without constantly crashing and with it not being too bogged down....thats my only concerns right now.


either an app works or it doesn't, for me, vv 8 or 9 32bit doesn't when using the current media formats. i was stupid enough to believe some anonymous poster on a forum somewhere who said its possible to run (run meaning functionally) mxf m2t and avchd on the same time line and thus ended up with tons of mixed format footage
PerroneFord wrote on 12/20/2009, 5:59 PM
Oh man.... not good. I'm not surprised things are falling down around you.