A gaming YouTuber's wish list for Vegas Pro 14

Parallax Abstraction wrote on 9/5/2016, 10:18 PM

I'm sure there's been a billion wish list threads already but as someone who has been running a hobby YouTube channel, exclusively on Vegas since 2013, I just wanted to put out a few things I'd love to see in a future release of the software that would benefit my use case. Sony had clearly been neglecting Vegas for some time and I'm excited to see if MAGIX can revilalise it. I know Vegas Pro 14 will be upon us soon and that its features are likely locked down but I hope these are among them or at least, that they'll be coming soon:

CUDA Support for Current NVIDIA GPUs - When I started YouTube, I was on a GTX 570 and it was incredible how much CUDA sped up rendering times. Since then, I've upgraded to a 770, a 970 and recently a 1080 and none of them get any CUDA benefit. From what I've researched, this is because Vegas Pro is using an old version of NVIDIA's CUDA API and it needs to be updated to support new lines. This desperately needs to happen as I make frequently 1080p60 videos of a decent length and even in my overclocked i7-6700K, they can take hours each to render.

A Proper Render Queue - Premiere's had this forever. I often put together multiple gaming videos in one day. It's a huge inconvenience to not be able to queue up multiple renders, hit go and have them process one after the other overnight. Right now, I either have to start each subsequent one or try to do multiple render sessions at once, which almost always results in crashes.

Permanently Disable Resampling - The "smart" resample doesn't work, at least not on game footage. It always makes it blurry. Having to turn this off on every clip is ridiculous. Please just add an option to disable it by default.

Fix Dark Renders - I render on a custom made Sony AVC/MVC based preset at 1080p60 for most of my YouTube videos. Every video that comes out of Vegas Pro will end up significantly darker when processed by YouTube (or even in my local media player), unless I apply the Computer RGB to Studio RGB preset in Sony Levels, which makes previews in Vegas Pro extra bright and thus, harder to edit. As far as I know, Premiere users don't have this problem.

Improve Preview Performance - Whether on my old i7-2600K or my new beast, Vegas Pro cannot preview 1080p60 footage in Best mode without significant stutter. My much faster PC literally has no improvement in this over my previous one from 5 years ago. Yet, I can play this footage in any media player just fine. I don't know if it's possible but it would be very nice if the preview could be optimised.

Proper utvideo Codec Support - I usually record my lossless game footage with Lagarith but when recording live streams I do in OBS Studio for later VoDs, it only records losslessly with utvideo. When this footage is imported into Vegas Pro, it's always black and white, regardless of what version of utvideo I install. This is apparently a known issue. This won't affect most people so I don't expect it to be a priority but having proper support for this codec would be awesome.

That's all I can think of at the moment but as I said, these are things that are very important to me as a gaming YouTuber. Honestly, right now, I'd pay the upgrade price just for current CUDA support, the rest would be gravy. But of course, the more the merrier. :)

I'm very anxious to check out Vegas Pro 14. I hope it finds a great home with MAGIX! Thanks.

Comments

DrLumen wrote on 9/6/2016, 2:03 AM

A Proper Render Queue
I believe there was a script that allowed batch rendering. While it may not work like you need, perhaps exploring it and making changes will allow you to render the various projects.

Permanently Disable Resampling
Agreed. I think this has been asked for many times.

Fix Dark Renders
By chance do you have the effects bypassed in the video preview? I can't say I have ever ran across this issue.

Improve Preview Performance
I had this issue as well until I did a win7 system rebuild and reload of VP13. After that, the issue went away.

As to the others, I don't have any suggestions...

Good luck.

Last changed by DrLumen on 9/6/2016, 2:04 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

intel i-4790k / Asus Z97 Pro / 32GB Crucial RAM / Nvidia GTX 560Ti / 500GB Samsung SSD / 256 GB Samsung SSD / 2-WDC 4TB Black HDD's / 2-WDC 1TB HDD's / 2-HP 23" Monitors / Various MIDI gear, controllers and audio interfaces

Parallax Abstraction wrote on 9/6/2016, 12:28 PM

So there is kind of a batch rendering thing I've come across but it's only good in a certain use case. It basically allows you to render multiple videos out of a single project. So for example, say I recorded a 3 hour video for a Let's Play series but I wanted it split into 6 half hour episodes. I can create regions for each of the episodes and render those in a batch. However, I have not found a script that allows me to queue up multiple entire projects for batch rendering, which you can do in Premiere. Maybe a third-party tool like Vegasaur can do that but it would be nice to have this integrated.

The preview performance thing definitely seems to be subjective and I'm not sure why. Like I said, this happened on my old machine and it also happens on my new one, which got a fresh load of Windows 10. It's not the end of the world and I can certainly work with it but it's just an odd thing.

I don't have effect bypassed in preview, though I suppose that would make the footage look normal in there, even when I apply Sony Levels. It's just a pain to need to do that to begin with. From what I've read about it, this does seem to be an issue with a relatively recent (as in the last year) change YouTube made to their player. If I can bypass effects on the preview (I've never done this but I'm sure it's easy to figure out), then I can just apply Sony Levels to the entire project and be done with it which is fine for me.

Thanks for the suggestions!

OldSmoke wrote on 9/6/2016, 1:09 PM

I have not found a script that allows me to queue up multiple entire projects for batch rendering

For that you should invest into Vegasaur; it includes other tools you will find very useful.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)