A plug for Pinnacle Studio on the Vegas boards

blink3times wrote on 12/7/2008, 12:44 AM
Did I get your attention Sony?

I export my M2V for Blu Ray from Vegas and while importing to DVDa I discover something minor that I don't like and want to touch up. Well... in order to do it I have to fire up Pinnacle Studio... which I have really grown to hate... but it seems I have no choice because Vegas DOES NOT import M2V files.

Now come on... give me a break. I can create them and export them with Vegas. They're even part of the DEFAULT Blu Ray templates...but I can't import them???

It's time to get this fixed.

Comments

farss wrote on 12/7/2008, 1:55 AM
So you go back to your source and fix it there.
What makes you think because a particular file type is part of any spec Vegas should be able to import it, that's daft reasoning. Last time I checked m2v is a mpeg-2 elemental stream. Vegas is an editor. You should avoid editing any lossy codec such as mpeg-2 if at all possible.

Plenty of far more important things Vegas needs to handle than m2v.

Bob.
Skuzzy wrote on 12/7/2008, 4:10 AM
If there is one truism about video/audio editing it is this, "There is no one application that does it all great!".

I use 11 different applications in the course of producing a DVD. Three different video editors, two different 2D paint programs, two different 3D programs, one 3D native converter, one lighting editor, and two different audio editors.

You really could have handled this better. If you think starting a thread like this is going to net something positive, you are probably in for a surprise.
blink3times wrote on 12/7/2008, 7:04 AM
"You should avoid editing any lossy codec such as mpeg-2 if at all possible."

3 words.... no recompress rendering.

If I go back to the source then it will take another 4 hours to fix a very minor problem. With No Recompress... only the part that gets changed will lose quality (which wasn't much) and it would take an hour
blink3times wrote on 12/7/2008, 7:13 AM
"If there is one truism about video/audio editing it is this, "There is no one application that does it all great!"."

That's not true... well almost anyway. Vegas (with dvda) is a one-stop-shop kind of editor and it DOES do it all great.... ALMOST... which is why the lack of m2v import is so irritating.

This entire project I did from start to finish with Vegas..... until the point where I needed to do a minor correction on a m2v
Chienworks wrote on 12/7/2008, 2:17 PM
Unless we're talking about days or you have a broadcast deadline looming, rendering time is relatively inconsequential, in that it's a background task and you're free to pursue other activities while it's going on. So, in your example of 1 hour to no-recompress-render and lose quality in the part that's being fixed vs. 4 hours to rerender pristine from source, i'd say it's a no-brainer to choose the 4 hours.

Rerending from compressed output files should be reserved for cases where that's all you have to work with, or time is ultra-critical. You apparently still have the source to render from. I don't know about your time constraint, but you could easily have rerendered a major project or two from source since your initial post.
[r]Evolution wrote on 12/7/2008, 5:19 PM
[i]3 words.... no recompress rendering.[/]

I don't edit this format normally... but I can definitely see your frustration as I too have had to go back to the Project level to 'fix' something.