A question for jrstueve or anyone about PIP

Stiffler wrote on 6/21/2002, 2:42 AM
Jrstueve, I saw your video on Chienworks site of a video that had a map embedded in your project. I'm wondering how you captured the map and placed it in your project?

It is a great idea, and I'd like to use it for an intro for some vacation videos.

(I could put a title on my video that says 'Hayward, Wisconson', but who actually knows where that is? Instead I could have my video zoom-in on a map, and pan to the area that I want to highlight.)

Thanks, Jon

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Grazie wrote on 6/21/2002, 4:49 AM
Stiffler - We had a very long discussion about this.

Try doing a search on this forum for something like "PIP" or "picture in picture" or "cookie cutter". There was a lot of feedback and some really neat suggestions and solutions. If you are still bemused get back here and someone will have a go. In the meantime see if there are any answers to your question in the search and have a go at implementing them.

Grazie
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/21/2002, 8:14 AM
It's always good advice to search the forums before posting a new question but a quick search reveals that Stiffler has done a search before and even appended to a PIP conversation that he would study what was said and try it. So I assume he has searched and really needs help.

I'm new to VF, (I've only had it for 2 weeks) but I purchased it specifically to do a project that involved a Ken Burns style pan and scan telling a story with just still pictures so I've played with picture manipulation a lot in these past two weeks. (I've also been using other desktop NLE packages for about 2 years now and have done moving maps with those packages) I haven't seen Jrstueve's work so I can't comment directly on what he did, but here's the general idea.

Assuming he did a PIP insert with a moving map, here's one way to do it:

1. Place your main video on the Video line
2. Place your Overlay map (JPG, TGA, BMP, etc.) on the Video Overlay line
3. Select the "Video FX" tab (Alt-3) then "Cookie Cutter" then "Picture in Picture" and drop that on the Overlay map and change its position or accept the default in the dialog box. (then press Close) You should now have a PIP.
4. Right click the map and select "Video Event Pan/Crop" from the popup context menu
5. Now move the frame around and watch different parts of the map show up in the PIP box. Move the map until your starting location is shown through the PIP. Alternately you could zoom out to show the whole map at first by stretching the bounding box and repositioning it.
6. Press the END button and move the frame around the map again until the ending location is shown through the PIP window. You can even change the size of the bounding box to zoom into the ending location.
7. Press Play to preview and make adjustments as necessary. Your video should scroll/zoom from the starting point to the ending point.
8. Press Close and you have a PIP moving map.

Alternately you could do the moving map full screen without the PIP. If you do this, you can add other things like a line that moves from your origin to your destination. For a really special effect, you can use Ulead Cool 3D to manipulate a 3D jet plane that takes off from one location on the map and lands at another. Then place this on the overlay line and set the alpha channel to premultiplied to key it into your main video. But that's a whole other thread. ;)

Hope this is the info you were looking for.

~jr
Grazie wrote on 6/21/2002, 9:48 AM
Hmmmm.... Yes you are right JR. I re-read Stiffler's post again.

He is wondering,.... "I'm wondering how you captured the map and placed it in your project?"

1. You capture it by scanning - using a scanner - a hard copy of the map in question and save it as one of the import media files VF allows you to, into the Media Pool.

2. Once you have it in the Media Pool, "Copy" or "Drag and Drop" this from the Media Pool to the overlay track.

It is really nice when people take such care and attention over people's enquiries. Nice one JR!

Grazie
Frenchy wrote on 6/21/2002, 11:02 AM
Another possibility to capture a digital map would be to try mapquest.com or topozone.com (depending on the type/scale of map you need) or aaa.com (if you're a member). You could then save the page or image (as a .jpg or .bmp) and edit out what you don't need, and place the new edited image in the media pool...

Frenchy
jrstueve wrote on 6/21/2002, 3:30 PM
Sorry.. I've been gone on business.. and haven't been able to post..

I used Mapquest to grab three maps of the areas that I wanted to show, the first around Montery, the seond the main highway up to Oregon (passing Mt. Shasta) and the third around my hometown in Oregon.

I wanted to have the PIP pan across the map, ala Indiana Jones... but couldn't figure it out.. so I used still frames, and just faded a map in and out along with pictures (some from various internet sites, since I didn't have any source footage or photos from the actual road trip...)

You can save a mapquest map by just saving the map as a JPEG...

does that answer all the questions?
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/21/2002, 3:51 PM
Wow… you're right! The original question was how he captured the map. Seems I get a B- in reading comprehension. I guess the Capture actually Escaped me. (Ooo.. bad, I know... its Friday) Thanks for catching it Grazie.

Of course, if you don't have a scanner, or your scanner is under a pile of books and CD's and you’re too lazy to clear it off to use it (c’mon… you know who are..) you can always get one off the web.

~jr
Stiffler wrote on 6/21/2002, 3:53 PM
Yes, thanks for the responses. Sorry about the PIP question, I should have not posted my question like that as I was really wondering about placing a map in my project, but the detailed info is useful!

I have played with mapquest, and I'm going to check out the other options now.

Thanks again,

Jon