Accent disk laminator

Laurence wrote on 11/17/2004, 10:13 PM
The Accent disk laminator is way too much money but I ordered one anyway. I am just so sick of disks that look good for a day or two, but grubby after a small amount of handling, I also can't stand not being able to wash fingerprints off of disks. I tried a bunch of clear sprays and never could get consistant quality. Has anyone else got one of these? Is there anything I should be aware of as I start to use it?

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Caruso wrote on 11/18/2004, 12:06 AM
What sort of labels do you use?

I don't know anything about this 'Accent' product you mention, so, if you would, describe it for us (or point me to a product linke, please). I might be interested.

Caruso
RalphM wrote on 11/18/2004, 4:39 AM
For those kind of $$ I'll stick to the spray. Using a matte finish spray gives a uniform coating for me.
farss wrote on 11/18/2004, 5:00 AM
I'm using a spray made in Holland specifically for CD/DVD and it does seem to do a good job, I wouldn't say the finish is perfect but at least it's waterproof and it does look better than no spray.
One trap I've found with the spray. You need to get the DVD on a flat surface, I had one a piece of paper and the edges of the DVD were a few millimetres off the paper and I suspect the electrostatic charge on the DVD sucked some spray onto the bottom outer rim of the DVD and well, it did play so well after that!
I'd looked at the laminators but for that kind of money I'd go the whole hog and get a top line thermal printer that also does holograms but what stopped me was what to put in the hologram :)
Bob.
DGates wrote on 11/18/2004, 5:25 AM
Why not just use glossy labels so you don't have to go through all that trouble with printable discs?

I use Neato labels and print them using a Canon printer, and they're practically water resident. Spiffy-looking too.
Laurence wrote on 11/18/2004, 6:24 AM
The glossy look is not the main attraction for me. The extra resilience and waterproofness is what I'm after.
RalphM wrote on 11/18/2004, 6:58 AM
farss,
Instead of laying them on a piece of paper, try the following:

Take the base of an empty cd or dvd spool and cut off the center spindle.
Place one of the clear dummy CDs or a scrap CD on the base first, then set the DVD to be sprayed on top of it.

I've never had a DVD get spray on the data side using this method. I've got a bar with four of these bases on it for multiple spraying jobs.
riredale wrote on 11/18/2004, 7:58 AM
I hate to sound so retro, but try this combination:

(1) Meritline glossy labels

(2) Any Epson DuraBrite-based (pigment ink) printer.

I've done many hundreds of DVDs this way, and they look gorgeous, don't smear, and won't fade. The label has a paper backing, so it's not "waterproof" but for ordinary handling it does fine. Also, I've never had any issue regarding playability.
Jsnkc wrote on 11/18/2004, 12:05 PM
"I've never had any issue regarding playability."

Give it some time....you will! The labels eventually will start to peel off and it will basically ruin your disc, and possibly your drive if the disc happens to be in it when the label comes off. I have hundreds of discs that I foolishly put paper labels on 3-4 years ago and every single one of them has started to peel off making the discs worthless.
riredale wrote on 11/18/2004, 3:30 PM
You could be right, but so far I haven't seen it. I don't have any DVDs going back that far, but plenty of old CDs with full labels that are holding up fine. It could be the adhesives used by different vendors, or perhaps the application process (I've commandeered my wife's rolling pin).

It would certainly be more convenient to just print directly to white blanks, but I'm not sure the DVD makers are there yet.
Laurence wrote on 11/19/2004, 7:57 PM
Well I got the Accent Disk Laminator today. AAhg! it doesn't work properly. At mid-way heat and spead settings I get coverage of about half the disk. Slowing the tray movement and running it at the highest temperature boosts this to about 3/4 coverage. The part of the disk that does laminate looks really good so I'll give the RMA thing a try. Unfortunately, it's Friday evening and so I won't be able to do anything until early next week. This thing is huge and it's built like a tank. It takes several minutes to warm up before you can use it. I still have high hopes for it but darn, $2300 is a lot of money to spend on something that ships in a non-working state!
farss wrote on 11/20/2004, 1:33 AM
I'm not 100% certain about this but I think you can only laminate certain types of finishes, I know for a fact that thermal printing will not work on inkjet printable media, I'd imagine the lamintaion process is much the same.
This may mean you also have to use thermal printing and then things get really expensive, hope I'm wrong.
MichaelS wrote on 11/20/2004, 5:31 AM
We use spray. Just good old Wal-Mart craft spray and are yet to have a problem. I recently pulled some old DVD's that had paper labels applied and discovered that the paper had begun ti shrink, slightly pulling the outer edges of the disc in and up, in a bowl shape. I hurriedly made copies of all that were salvagable.

I use the spray sparingly, applying a light dusting. I avoid the "high gloss" look of a heavy coat, mostly because I fear the extra, uneven weight will affect the playback.

We consistantly get comments on how pro our dics look compared to the competition. Sharp packaging will definately increase sales and build customers.
Laurence wrote on 11/20/2004, 7:16 AM
I use thermal printing on printable labels all the time. Plus, most of the disk laminates beautifully Laminating printable labels is the whole point of the Accent Disk Laminator.
Laurence wrote on 12/6/2004, 7:04 PM
Well I got my Accent Disk Laminator back today. It works perfectly. The laminated disks look every bit as good as commercial disk runs! The laminated disks are completely waterproof. It takes a good five minutes or so to warm up before you can use it, but after that each disk takes only a couple of seconds. I definitely like this more than clear sprays. Yeah it was expensive but it's built like a Hummer. I'll use this thing on every disk I make!
nickle wrote on 12/6/2004, 7:12 PM
Hummer is being investigated because the wheels fall off.

Hope you laminater is better than that.