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Spot|DSE wrote on 1/25/2005, 7:14 AM
Notice how he, too...recommends staying at 50i or 60i for film output? That's been one of the main contentions of all the "gotta have 24p" folks. This week I've talked to 5 different film lab guys, all of them say they prefer to have footage sent to them at 50/60i for transfers. JAG is doing film outs of the HDV footage they shot at CF25, and we'll likely have access to that.
Adam did an awesome job!
Laurence wrote on 1/25/2005, 7:34 AM
If you take this link and go to the bottom of the page, you'll see three images of a small section of three HDV frames blown up: the first is interlaced PAL, the second is deinterlaced as a film transfer would do it, the third is Cineframe 25.

http://www.dvfilm.com/fx1/
Coursedesign wrote on 1/25/2005, 1:35 PM
"Notice how he, too...recommends staying at 50i or 60i for film output? That's been one of the main contentions of all the "gotta have 24p" folks."

In all fairness to the "gotta have 24p" folks, what is stated is that [originating in 50i/60i and then converting to 24p] is better than using the Frame Mode on the FX1 (or a Canon XL1).

Neither comparison included 24p-originated footage, which could potentially look even better.

Still, I agree that 60i->24p conversions can work amazingly well, especially if motion-adaptive deinterlacing is used.


farss wrote on 1/25/2005, 2:39 PM
I'm not in the least bit interested in this 'film look' thing but there's something else that concerns me with the FX1/Z1. Isn't pretty well every HiDef display apart from CRT based one progressive scan? So someone correct me if I'm wrong here but we have a camera that shoots "i"and we have to display it on "p". Now OK there's some pretty decent de-interlacing gear around at a hefty price but ah wouldn't it have made this camera one aweful lot more useful if the thing shot "p" in the first place?
Yeah, I realise there's a lot of techincal issues involved but...
Or am I wrong, are HiDef "i" display systems readily available.
Bob.
epirb wrote on 1/25/2005, 3:01 PM
Farss , I dont know if this is what you are refering to, but here in the states the HDTV's are 1080i (interlaced) or 720p. My Mits, RPTV doesnt do 720p native but the 1080i is impecable. Some tvs do both others only one or the other.
JJKizak wrote on 1/25/2005, 3:04 PM
Yes there are many. The key is watching the specs as some DVI's and some Component inputs are only rated 720p. My component is rated 1080i and the DVI is rated 720p. On the D-VHS JVC VCR the firewire is rated 1080i and the component 480p.

JJK
farss wrote on 1/25/2005, 3:39 PM
Thanks guys.
I just got of the phone discussing this with someone else and I was wrong or at least not thinking to clearly. Yes even our HP 23" LCD will do "i". It's only when you're driving these things thru a computer that you hit the "p" only problem.
Still that's how more and more footage is being viewed and oddly enough perhaps the way most consummers are likely to view their own HD footage whereas for broadcast it's more likely you wouldn't need "p".
Bob.