Are you referring to the CoLLections ? If so, you drag the Name (Bounce, Drop Split etc) down to the timeline header area at the bottom left of the Pro Titler window.

Thank you and sorry, I am using a Japanese version of Vegas 8, and there is no distinction between l and r in the language. "Collections" (not correction) it is.

I will try the bottom left of the Pro Titler window. Yes. That worked.

It does not seem to affect the text already there, but add new text, "The Brown Fox" which I do not see to edit.
http://ds21.cc.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp/~econo/temp/empty.jpg
But then if I double click I can *seem* to edit the "The Brown Fox" but a ghost of the brown fox remains and the new edited text dissapears into the distance rather than is placed all at once.

The Pro Titler is quite difficult to use.

By the way, there does not seem to be a "notify me of replies" checkbox on this forum reply box, nor in the forum settings of my account.

Tim

Grazie Grazie,

I was dragging onto the main timeline not the tiny timeline in protitle itself. But I have found it now. Sort of.

Tim

Ah! Rite-oh!

Along your same lines, I want to know just HOW to:

1] mute one set of text Elements from another

2] edit one at a time.

Tim, I hear you! I can't focus in on one text edit and move on.

PT promises a lot and I have great faith in Madison getting it good for us.

I have a question: Are we actually ALLOWED to apply more than ONE text Element within ONE PT window? Just because we CAN, does that mean it has the ability to allow us to focus in on ONE set of words from one item and then another?

> Are we actually ALLOWED to apply more than ONE text Element within ONE PT window? Just because we CAN, does that mean it has the ability to allow us to focus in on ONE set of words from one item and then another?

Good question. I can't even add a second text element, except by mistake, when I attempt to add an effect (from the "Collection") to original text element.

I have no idea how to focus. I just select the text by wiping it with the the mouse (even control A to select the whole field does not work) and this allows me to select and change font size for instance, but it does not allow me to add an effect ("Collection") to the selected text. Adding an effect ("Collection") adds a new sample text ("The Brown Fox").

Obliquely related....One thing that used to bug me about the old text editor was that it seemed that when one changed the text size it changed the text size of all other lines of text of the same size.

I am not sure who Madison is but I hope he or she helps.

I still do not know how to get notifications on this board.

Tim

1] Madison Wiscon US is where Vegas and the whole Sony Creative Software have their HQ: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/corporate/default.aspThis is where the "Wild Things Play"![/link]

2] We don't get notifacations. Pity I know . .

Oh. Madison Wisconsin. I thought it was a womans name or a street in New York. Do people from Sony Creative sometimes write to the message board?

I think that if they don't have a board with notifications, they are unlikely to go to the trouble of writing to the board, somehow. But I hope I am wrong.

The cheap non-pro version of Vegas has the "show me how" function which is really great. Sometimes I wish I had bought that but then I would not have the Pro Titler.

Tim

It does not look like anyone from Madison is going to step in an share the light.

PType Titler is fairly easy once you work out it's methadology.

Adding effects to exinsting text:
Firstly, select your relevant text you want to add effects to. (single click, so you see box around it.)
Now click on effects tab on left. Expand effects if it is not already (click arrow next to word). You willl see (hopefully) gaussian blur, glow, and drop shadow. Select the box to apply an effect, and expand and tweak said box to you wanted settings. If you want to automate something, you need to click and activate the "@" sign to the left of the words. This will add a "track" to the bottom left section. Unticking the "@" will remove it again.

Curves, such as movement:
With your text still selected, from above exercise, go to transform on the left. Select the "@" on both X and Y offset (expand offset it you can't see X & Y). On the right 'workspace' (primarily black area!), move your text down to, say for example, the bottom left. Go to your timeline, and move the tombstone/cursor positoin on a bit. Now move your text, say to screen centre.

That's it - you now have automated, effected text. The collections simply have these steps pre-defined on pre-selected text. You add a collection, and double click your text and edit it into your home-made wordage :)

Hope that clears it up

“Hope this clears this up” . .. well, IMO, not quite . .

Point 1 - You can also Select TEXT by HIGHLIGHTING the text. And once I do this I can adjust the size of separate letters. So there is not only a possibility of selecting text this way, I can then apply an effect bits of the text.

Point 2 - Apply anything to the box is not therefore adding anything selectable of the INTERNAL text.

Point 3 - So to really REALLY clear this up you can not apply a collection TO an existing, pre-written text PERIOD! You can add to pre-Gaussian blurs or Strokes or . . well anything you have done previously. You can ADD a collection and then using your quote: “You add a collection, and double click your text and edit it into your home-made wordage" - and, this is AFTER what I might have done previously. And to read-back to our friend here: "but I don't know how to add them to the text." and this: “How does one get the effects (and corrections, curves) to apply?" - well, until I am told otherwise one can't add these affects to an already existing piece of text.

So, some of the properties “adjusts” apply to the Letter/Word/Line, and others, as you say, apply to the Text Box. But then there is this other level, Collections, which one can't apply to something that already exists.

Now here I come. I want these ALL available at ANY creative point/intersect I have got to. Meaning, I don’t wish having:

1] Written my text

2] Adjusted separately some of the text sizing to PARTICULAR letters

3] Then I want to apply a Collection Curve - well? I can’t. I can’t do this.

If you really want I can come up with other examples and I have experienced before now. What I have learnt is that I can ONLY come at my ideas from a particular angle to start with. Being dictated to, to how I come at my ideas is not what I know and have come to enjoy about Vegas.

This is frustrating Kennymusician. The methodology, at present, needs cranking around. AND I STILL think it is going to be awesome.

However, IMO, it is not as straightforward as it appears. And, it could be!

Point 1) Yes I know - but this was not what Timtak was asking, as far as I understood. That was my intention - answer Timtaks question.

Point 2) Ditto

Point 3) I absolutely agree. I found it very odd, especially at the start as it was not intuitive.

At least what is nice is that you can add more glows, drop shadows etc. You're not just restricted to 1 of each.

I too would love the idea, of being able to simply drag a collection onto existing text and have it apply the transform movement in particular for me. A new tab perhaps "transform", to add to curves, collections (rename to starting template!), effects, gradients. Adding in a right-click context menu on teh collections would be nice - such as "apply transform to selected text", or "appy effects to selected text", and also have a much expanded collection in the collection. And a few more things.
But at the end of the day I was just trying to help Timtak.

Thank you very much indeed Kenny Musicman, and Grazie

I will go through this slowly but in conclusion, it is not possible to add a collection to existing text?

Tim