Adobe Lightroom/Vegas Movie 11

piko111647 wrote on 6/3/2012, 1:07 PM
Aloha,
First a short introduction:
I have been a stills photographer for longer than I care to remember. Basically I use all canon equipment with my primary camera being the full frame Canon 5D. I do all of my tagging and cataloging of images in Adobe Lightroom ver.3.6 I use Adobe Photoshop for editing.
As I have an upcoming vacation to the Amazon rainforest of Ecuador planned I decided to purchase my first ever video camera a Canon HF 11 HD. After reading around the Internet I decided upon Sony Vegas movie platinum 11 as a video editor. I have only been learning the program for 3 days but unless I have overlooked something I cannot find any way of cataloging and tagging my clips?
My question to the forum is: What do you use to catalog all of your clips?
Also, as I am familiar with Adobes products would it be worth me upgrading to Adobe Lightroom Version 4; it now edits/catalogs and tags video clips? I would then have all of my stills & movie clips in the same program.
Basically I shoot an awful lot of stills and see no reason why I will not shoot lots of video; therefore I find it imperative to have a good cataloging system and presently (unless I am overlooking this part of the program) find this sadly lacking in Sony Vegas Movie Platinum 11.
Mahalo, Peter

Comments

Markk655 wrote on 6/3/2012, 2:43 PM
Peter,

Good news and bad news. Sony VMS does not have an organizer feature like Photoshop Elements.

On the plus side, if you use PS(E) for your stills, you can use the same organizer for your video clips. In fact, you can even drag from the Organizer into the VMS timeline. I use PSE to catalog my clips and it works quite well for AVCHD. Lightroom may work the same way. Just have them both open at the same time and try to click&drag.

piko111647 wrote on 6/3/2012, 3:41 PM
Aloha & thanks Markk655.
I think that i will spring the $$$$ for the Lightroom upgrade; it's only money and photography is expensive to set up but the rewards are 10 fold. I was lucky today and purchased a genuine Canon Tele-converter off eBay for 1/2 price.
rdandrea wrote on 6/3/2012, 4:04 PM
>>What do you use to catalog all of your clips?

I use Google Picasa (free). It shows thumbnails and lets me preview my clips on a double-click. From Picasa's libraries, I can drag and drop into Vegas Platinum.

I also organize my clips in folders named by date and subject, which makes Picasa even easier to use.
AlanADale wrote on 6/4/2012, 2:59 AM
I'm like you Peter, a stills photographer for what seems like forever LOL. I'm trialling LR4.1 at the moment and first impressions are that it's pretty good. I've got thumbnails of all my videos/clips in the Library and have been able to choose what frame to show as the thumbnail.
Looking at this video by Julianne C http://tv.adobe.com/watch/whats-new-in-lightroom-4/working-with-dslr-video-/ I can see that perhaps one or two features might come in handy. However, these and more can also be done in VMS so it's doubtful that I will use this feature or, if I do, it will only be for very short videos shot for a specific purpose.
In short then, these video features in LR4 are nice but I wouldn't specifically buy/upgrade for these features alone. For stills yes as there have been a lot of improvements made and these show.
I'm a little bit confused as to what you are exactly meaning by 'cataloging'. Picasa, as already mentioned, will allow you to view and play your videos but so to will simply opening up the folder in which they are contained.
Overall, I think you'd be very happy and meet all your requirements (both still images and video wise) by upgrading to LR4 for tagging/geo tagging and keep to VMS solely for editing.