Advance Capture - Dimmed Delete Option?

Grazie wrote on 1/18/2005, 11:37 PM
I've been using AdvCap very heavily over the past week.

Once the clips are captured, and I get the final confirmation screen showing thumbnails of the "captured" clips. Why when I select/highlight a thuumbnail and right click is the option to now DELETE greyed out? I have several reasons why I wanted to delete one or two clips after capture and thinking further about a clip, having this as an option is great, but why is it greyed out? Obviously this Screen is providing me with this option to do exactly that - "Which ones do you now not want?" - to have a last option to review and delete if I so wish. Then why is it dimmed/greyed out?

Thoughts? Correct for you too? Am I doing something wrong .. very possible!

Best regards,

Grazie

Comments

farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 1:48 AM
I think if the clip has ended up in the media pool then you cannot delete it.
Try cleaning the media pool and see what happens. Of course you could just delete the file using win explorer. I try to avoid playing with files from any of the Vegas browser windows, been confused by them too easily.
Bob.
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 2:49 AM
Ok, yes I can do what you say - but - within VidCap is an option to Dlete, it is greyed out though. This I don't understand. - G
farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 4:05 AM
When you say "an option to delete...'
Do you mean a button labelled delete or the ability to rclick a file and delete it?

Sorry but nothing captured at the moment and I'm in the middle of big audio project.

Don't really understand why it's an issue, I only use VidCap to capture, period. And I always delete all the capture info so things don't get confusing but then again we regularly capture 12 hours of video for 8 projects in one go, we track everything by tape number.
Bob.
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 5:06 AM
"When you say "an option to delete...' Niether - BUT RClick a thumnailed Captured Event within this final post-captured screen, it don't look like a file as in Explorer. It looks more like the thumbnails you see in Media Pool. At least it would appear to be the "First Frame".

"Don't really understand why it's an issue," Ok, you don't understand. I'll try again. It's an ISSUE because Vegas says it can do something - at this point DELETE - but it is greyed out. So, taking advantage of this option - if I could at this point - I could "further" decide which clips I wanted I could delete them/it. Because Vegas is giving me the option with a Right click on a thumbnail to DELETE I would use it, but it is greyed out, so I can't . .. arrrgghhh!

"I only use VidCap to capture, period." Good for you, Bob. Well in AdvVidCap you get the feature I'm telling you about.

" . . we track everything by tape number." Great! So do I, but with AdvVidCap I get to name each clip - last lot was 170 off a 60min miniDV - and I get to name and group/Bin them too - VERY HELPFUL!

AdvVidCap lets me review the tape and set ins and outs. Each in and out creates a clip/event. This is a good thing when, for example, with this project I'm on, it is short-event dependant - some clips are only 4 to 6 seconds - and they were shot over a looooong period of time - here 6 months. I'm mixing maybe 200 clips/events from a wide selection of miniDV tapes. This is definatley NOT what you do - understood. However, within AdvVidCap there is this furhter option after Batch Capturing is done - here it was 170 clips - to further have an option to delete, but that option when "viewed", against a selected thumnail WITHIN AAdvVidCap is stubbornly greyed out - yeah?

Best regards,

Grazie
farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 5:20 AM
Ah
do you start AVidCap from a project or standalone?
I seem to recall that if you started VidCap from within a project all clips get added to the media pool. If that's the case then there's your answer. You cannot delete a clip that's in the media pool from within Vegas or WinExplorer.
Bob.
PeterWright wrote on 1/19/2005, 5:36 AM
... but in Media Pool you can right click and remove clips from the project AND from the Hard Drive at the same time.
farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 5:53 AM
OK,
but isn't that the only way you can delete them as Vegas locks any files that are in the media pool?
Bob.
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 6:06 AM
Just tested:


"Ah do you start AVidCap from a project or standalone? " Yes and now YES!

"I seem to recall that if you started VidCap from within a project all clips get added to the media pool." Well that is what IS happenning and yes it would.

"If that's the case then there's your answer." .. er . .what, that I get an option to delete that IS greyed out OR that I can get stuff to go to the Media Pool directly, and that I can't delete stuff from the media pool from within AdvVidCap?

"You cannot delete a clip that's in the media pool .. " oh yes you can. I can at least - I can get it wiped from the system .. . know that one . . remove from project/ and delete option there ..

But this last test I've done again shows that I can't use this function. I did a standalone AdvVidCap, DELETE .. alos there is a RENAME option too ... both are greyed out.

Now what?

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 6:14 AM
Well, Peter, you are reading my stuff here? What's your thoughts on it? G
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/19/2005, 6:17 AM
Have you actually captured clips, or is it that you are still just batching/logging? You won't have options until you actually capture.
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 6:26 AM
Thanks Spot! This is the post Batch Capture screen. I realise I can't delete that which I haven't captured.

It is the Screen that appears directly after a batch capture session. You get a large window with all the clips - thumbnailed - ready for you confirming you want them "saved" - it is at this point that if you rclick on a thumbnail you get a Pop-up menu "Delete" . . "Rename". Both of these potentially very useful options, at this point, are greyed out.

Thanks Spot,

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 9:22 PM
Will somebody please check this on their system .. Thank you. - Grazie
PeterWright wrote on 1/19/2005, 9:33 PM
Sorry Grazie - just starting music practice - no time to organise Advanced Capture, but if no-one else has tried by this evening I'll have a go .....
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 9:58 PM
Hello Peter, you are a Diamond! Thank you very much.

I guess you really know me by now - when I get a "Bee in my Bonnet" NOTHING will shift it! Nothing!

Just try any old 4 or 5 or 6 second sets of clips captured through Advance Cature Batch capture. ... er . .you know the rest! I just want to know that maybe I'm doing something wrong - if so I'll adapt.

Thanks again,

Grazie

PS:.. time here is 6:00am .. . just going for my first coffee . . getting on with this project .. client tonight .. it is starting to look neat . .

. .have a good music practice!
rmack350 wrote on 1/19/2005, 10:16 PM
G-
Bob is on the right track. The files get added to the pool and are "in use". Vidcap can't delete them in that state.

BTW, you can delete any of the entries in vidcap later on. Right click on an entry and make a choice. The same caveate about files being "in use" applies.

Rob Mack
Grazie wrote on 1/19/2005, 11:04 PM
Hello Rob . . . I have done a test outside of a project. There is no pool to be used it is only "held" in the capture directory. However, the options are still greyed out. I really do understand your "BTW".

Look, have you seen the option I'm talking about? It appears in the final, done capture window? It gives the option for renamuing and deleting - have you seen this?

Best regards

Grazie
farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 11:21 PM
Standby,
another job just came in so I'll give it a try.
Bob.
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/19/2005, 11:44 PM
Sorry Grazie, no DV cam here to test with, so can't do it. But me thinks you've got a folder added to the media pool if you've already captured these. You have "add files to the media pool" checked in prefs?
farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 11:50 PM
Took me a while to translaye Grazie into English and then into Strine but I can see it now.
When you stop capturing there's a button in the dialgue box ""Show Clips" which gives you thumnails and you can right click them which opens a popup with two options "Delete" and "Rename" both of which are greyed out.

Hope I've got that much right.

My best suggestion for the moment would be for what Graizes trying to do given the workflow is maybe SCLive.

Bob.

farss wrote on 1/19/2005, 11:53 PM
Well, blow me down. So if you close THAT window AdvVidCap now shows thumbnails in the bottom window and from there you CAN rclick and delete or rename.
Hope that solves it, got to get back to earning money to pay for NAB!
Bob.
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/20/2005, 12:03 AM
Bob, are you really coming to NAB? For sure? If so, please mail me offline.
Grazie wrote on 1/20/2005, 12:56 AM
NOW I feel vindicated - thanks Bob! - " . . . you can right click them which opens a popup with two options "Delete" and "Rename" both of which are greyed out."

Yes, I could use Scenealyzer, but I got Vegas 5. I really hope Sony, Spot, Rob and others here realise that when I stumble on something it is to try and improve "that which is being provided already". For me, more software equates to more trouble - believe me. Oh! - Or are you suggesting this, Bob, to get me away from this Forum and to go pester Scene's Forum instead? Nah, you wouldn't mean that? Would you?

Bottom line here folks is if somebody, ANYBODY, had tried what I said, first off, then maybe Bob could have got to earning money earlier, others wouldn't be thinking that I'm calling fire for no reason, Bob wouldn't have had to Strine himself too much .. oh, did I say Bob could have got back to earning money earlier? Oh yes I did.

Look, the solution I want is for the greyed out option to work, because I make mistakes, and I make mistakes at the Batch Capture stage and to review it PRIOR to getting back to the NEXT screen - and loosing the plot - would be great! I know this 'cos as I was reading this and AdvVidCap Batching, I DID make a mistake and would have loved to have been able to Delete OR Rename, at this stage!

I really don't care who reports this - I've gotta a client coming tonight and we are going to review my work - oh, Bob, I'll be handing him my "interim" invoice too. You use the word invoice in the Outback? Nah, didn't think so .. most likely carves it on a piece of gum bark and hands it to the dingos to deliver. Right?

My very best regards to one and all, especially to the hard working Bob,

Grazie


( writes note to self, "Must finish my small leaflet on 'Counting Angels on Pinheads' " . . . )
PeterWright wrote on 1/20/2005, 1:35 AM
>" most likely carves it on a piece of gum bark and hands it to the dingos to deliver. Right?"

- been watching the Discovery Channel, have you Grazie ?
Grazie wrote on 1/20/2005, 2:13 AM
Yup! - How was music?

Well .. . ? What do you think of it so far .. the Delete thingy?

G