Advice for the mess I'm in with 9.0a

erikd wrote on 8/13/2009, 9:03 AM
I edited a 17 minute 1440x1080 pal piece in 8c. All of the video is XDCAM HD. Conformed the project fine and then opened the project up into V9a for rendering so I could take advantage of the 32bit setting.

Here is where I screwed up. As I was going along, I ended up making more and more changes in V9a including graphics, compositing, audio sweetening, etc. I never intended to do it but I sort of got sucked in thinking this is going ok, so I'll just keep going.

Now, I can't render a native 1440x1080 PAL MXF out of this thing to save my life. It will go along rendering for a minute or so then CRASH!!! On complex portions of the timeline or not complex, it doesn't matter. V9a is junk and it will give you uglier crashes than an AMC Pacer.

Going back to 8c and starting again doesn't seem really plausible at this point. I wonder if going back to 9.0 might help. Anyone have a render that wouldn't work in 9.0a but does in 9.0?

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kairosmatt wrote on 8/13/2009, 9:55 AM
Have you tried rendering to an intermediate first-like cineform or lagarith-even uncompressed?

Or you could revert back to 9.0 (forumadmin just posted a link to it) and see if that works,

good luck
kairosmatt
Jay Gladwell wrote on 8/13/2009, 9:55 AM

You didn't save a backup copy before going into 9a???

kairosmatt wrote on 8/13/2009, 10:01 AM
Sounds like he did, but its in V8. So any work he did in 9 won't open.
xberk wrote on 8/13/2009, 10:11 AM
Did you try to delete all the audio and the try the render? .. Could be some audio clip you added in the sweeting.

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PerroneFord wrote on 8/13/2009, 10:32 AM
I'd do the following:

1. Attempt to render to an AVI file. Lagarith would be my choice
2. If #1 Fails, render audio only to 16bit/48KHz file then try to render video only.
3. Copy rendered stuff back into 8c.

The more I hear of people saying how 9.0(a) crashes and burns doing things, the more I suspect basic memory problems or system conflicts. I am just not seeing ANY of the same issues on my 2 installations. The disappearing text bug could be something of a challenge as I have not had to deal with that yet, but will next week.

But then, I didn't have any trouble with my 8.1 installation either. So maybe I am just lucky.

In looking at these issues, the major commonalities I tend to see are:

1. Long GOP on the timeline
2. HD files (rarely any SD problems which causes me to suspect memory)
3. Complicated timelines often with effects and color grades
4. Insufficient RAM. 4GB for HD is like 1GB for SD.

I'd like to hear if pros who have the 64 bit versions running with more than 4GB of RAM and aren't dropping long GOP on the timeline are seeing these problems.
erikd wrote on 8/13/2009, 10:36 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. Let me work on it a little and I'll let you know how I snaked out of this one.

Erik
erikd wrote on 8/13/2009, 1:15 PM
For those who may be watching this thread, it looks my job is a rebuild into 8c. I was able render out the 17 minute timeline into 50! different small clips but many of those clips didn't render correctly AND the clips are all very, very blurry!!!!!!!!

I too appreciate Sony's announcement but I got to say. No more experimenting for me. I'm done until many souls braver than me says 9b is just as steady as 8c.

Erik