Afordable HD is Here Forget BluRay-HD DVD

Sonisfear wrote on 8/29/2005, 9:43 AM
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/...el_id=MDL101546

My take on the whole HDV vs Raw footage is this.

HDV is a band-aid until production technology can handle a less compressed format.

Industry guys keep talking about the small margin in quality.

It reminds me of DVD Audio. Remember those the DVD audio disc that recorded at 24bit 192khz with superb audio reproduction.

What happend to it? Does anyone use it? No... but mp3 players are selling like nobodies business.

The answer is the consumer wants convenience and low cost as much as they want quality. HDV is that compromise for now until our computers/gear can handle the huge files and decks/players are cheap to play them.

HDV is definitely not perfect but sure does wow the customer (wedding customers) and is much better than any DV reproduction right now.

Industry guys who are not so hip to change keep telling me "Ya but what are your customers going to play it on".

The old Blue Ray VS HD DVD is irrelevant for now. This technology is way to expensive for the consumer and to produce and is years away from being solid.

There are over five great HD video compression codecs that play High definition really well. WMVHD, DIVX HD, Quicktime 7, HDV. Great thing is yes these are software so customers can play them in their computers right now.

But it is so easy for a manufacture to upgrade a regular $50.00 DVD player with a better video card and these HD codec.

Hence the JVC SR DVD
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/...el_id=MDL101546

Please note the MSRP of only $399.00.
This deck plays 2 hours HD from a regular .30cent dual layer DVD.

When a consumer can play better quality at this price...HD is here....
When I can produce HD without buy any expensive burners and media HD is here.

Yes it is not as sharp as it could be but great enough to transition the customer to Blueray and /or HD DVD later when they become cheaper and more affordable for everybody.

So Don't wait to produce your ideas your ideas (In my humble opinion).

Comments

Coursedesign wrote on 8/29/2005, 9:49 AM
Do you have a working link for the JVC deck?
Sonisfear wrote on 8/29/2005, 10:00 AM
Sorry, I copy pasted it from the site but here it is.

jvc.com
click on profeesional
click new products
select SR DVD
Coursedesign wrote on 8/29/2005, 10:18 AM
Not bad.

Manufactured and supported by IOdata in San Jose, California.

I especially liked that you don't even have to use DVDs, you can just hook it up to your LAN and feed from a file server disk.
p@mast3rs wrote on 8/29/2005, 11:17 AM
All this is is a redbadged IOData player. The big positive is that we will begin to see these available in retail stores whereas IOData's player has to be purchased from their online store. Wonder if JVC will lower the price. $200+ for a player is a bit high.

Id love to see a player that not only upscales to HD but downscales HD for display on SD TV sets. Not everyone has $$$ to buy HDTVs yet.

Myself, I am holding out for for a H.264 AVC/ WM9 HD/Mpeg-2 TS/PS.

Ill prolly grab the JVC/IOData player to check it out but not at $200.
p@mast3rs wrote on 8/29/2005, 1:49 PM
It does upscale to 1080i so thats a plus.
p@mast3rs wrote on 8/29/2005, 2:06 PM
Yeah but you could always output your 1080i captures to Mpeg-2 TS.

# Convenient and economical playback of HD from inexpensive DVD disks
# File playback of HDV™ MPEG-2 TS/PS (HD 720P, 1080i), WMV9, DivX® HD
# DVI and component analog outputs for 720p/1080i
# Auto-Play mode for unattended operation
# IP Network connection allows network file playback
# Front panel USB 2.0 connector accepts other media types (solid state, HDD)
# Also plays standard DVDs and upconverts them to HD
# View still photos up to 2048 x 1532 resolution
vitalforce2 wrote on 8/29/2005, 3:44 PM
Still waiting for that 8 megapixel DV that runs smoothly through a fiber optic to a 1"square quartz crystal drive programmed to hold 1 Terabyte.
filmy wrote on 8/29/2005, 4:15 PM
The whole I-O Data player was just talked about in another thread - I think someone had asked how people monitor/playback HD material. Anyhow though - this looks like it will be a version for JVC (the site does say it is distributed by JVC and support and such willcome from I-O Data) and on the I-O Data forums there are a few threads asking about 1080 playback and the overall answer is "just ignore the manual, it works fine".

One thing of note here is a comment on burning HD material to DVD and playing it back - here is a reply from I-O Data tech -

In general, playback from the DVD is very unstable at best, especially because the original loader installed in the unit is not very good at reading from burnt DVDs. If you plan to use the unit only for playback from the DVD my own personal suggestion is to replace it with a better drive - like the LiteOn. It's been reported to perform much better than the original drive. Please search the forum for more details.
p@mast3rs wrote on 8/29/2005, 4:44 PM
I still want to know what JVCs cost will be.