All-in-One Volume Control? Vegas 6

solarblast1 wrote on 12/5/2008, 11:20 AM
Suppose, for simplicity, I have 10 events, and every even numbered event has a low volume, which I'd like to make reasonably close to the others (odd # events). Is there a way of doing this with a track plug-in? I tried Wave hammer, but no luck.

Of course, in fact, my events vary randomly in volume, but there are some large differences between some of them.

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musicvid10 wrote on 12/5/2008, 11:24 AM
Right-click on the audio event.
Switches->Normalize.
solarblast1 wrote on 12/5/2008, 12:15 PM
>Right-click on the audio event. Switches->Normalize.

Switches? Do you mean on the audio track header? There's a normal for the editor.
solarblast1 wrote on 12/5/2008, 12:17 PM
I decided to use the track header, and there is a Switches there, but no Normalize choice. I'm using 6.0.
musicvid10 wrote on 12/5/2008, 1:36 PM
Right-click on the audio EVENT. Not the track.
Switches->Normalize.

Check the Help section in the Vegas program for answers to navigation and "how do I" questions first. Almost everything is explained in detail. Then, if you don't find it there, feel free to post back here.

There are some wonderful basic tutorials with step-by-step examples available on VASST, YouTube, and other sites.
solarblast1 wrote on 12/5/2008, 1:58 PM
I found Normalize on the right-click menu for an event. It shows Normalize. Using that did nothing. I found on the event' properties recalculate button. That did nothing.

I see now how-do-I description for normalize.

Perhaps one of the other audio devices (fades, envelope) has something to do with blocking it.

Tutorial?
Geoff_Wood wrote on 12/5/2008, 2:36 PM
It should. Are you sure there is no 'spike' that it limiting the gain applied to normalise ? If so edit that out, de-andre-normalise. The loudest section of the event should be brought up to 'full scale'.

geoff
solarblast1 wrote on 12/5/2008, 3:00 PM
I think you pegged it. There is a spike. I moved to another event, and I see it worked fine. I have a friend named Andre, but I have no idea what de-andre means. Vegas Help pointed me to a switch-events item, but the word andre doesn't appear there. It's not in the manual either. Will that remove the spike, or is there another way?

Is there a way to normalize all events in a track? Is there a way to find all spikes in a track?
Chienworks wrote on 12/5/2008, 5:56 PM
"de-andre-normalis" means "de-normalize and re-normalize"

You can select multiple events first, then normalize any one of them and they all will be.
solarblast1 wrote on 12/5/2008, 8:22 PM
How do I knock down the spike? I guess I could pull the envelope down around it.

Is there anyway to find the highest peak (or spike) in each of the segments in one fell swoop?

Thanks for your help. I'll be out for the night in 2 hours, and tomorrow I'll be out until Monday night.
Chienworks wrote on 12/6/2008, 6:52 AM
If it's a very short spike i'll zoom in on it close, then split on either side of it. Then i can normalize the rest.

More often though i'll use Wave Hammer and set the threshhold equal to the peaks of the quiet material and let it squish the unwanted peaks down for me.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 12/7/2008, 11:49 AM
Ooops typo. 'de-and-re-normalise"

geoff
Geoff_Wood wrote on 12/7/2008, 11:54 AM
Envelope won't do it because normalise works on the original (displayed) waveform.

You could split the spike off, or drag an edge in past it, of edit it out or down with SF or other audio editor (using level , or repair/replace, or pencil, etc).

If you split around the spike, both resulting events will normalise independantly, which would require additional level tweaking.

geoff
solarblast1 wrote on 12/9/2008, 5:46 PM
I'm back from my trip. I'd rather not split around the events, but am not familiar with Wave Hammer (Surround?). I'm not familiar with "set the threshold equal to the peaks of the quiet material". Looking at Hammer, I see Compressor, Volume Max, and Router tabs. My event is 30 sec long, and the spike occurs about 5 sec into it. The ? help gives:
a. Audio peaks above the Threshold setting will be limited while minimizing any possible distortion.

If I pull the slider on threshold to -12.6, is that all I need to do? There's an Input//Output button over on the right, which is not explained. Nor are the 7 bars above it. I guess the bars are left, right stereo, then ???, with the right-most likely the sum of them. I guess for this purpose here use Input.

The result looks like an improvement, with the wave form much broader. I can see the spike reduced from its surrounds, but it is still audible. However, the spike (tennis shoe squeak) is tolerable.

I guess this has knocked down any large volumes to something tolerable without much of the relative high volume audio elsewhere.
solarblast1 wrote on 12/9/2008, 6:49 PM
much of -an effect on- the relative high volume audio elsewhere