I'm having a difficult time finding an AMD RX 3xx & 4xx card that will stay within my budget, but I've been finding some good prices on 2GB & 4GB Firepro cards like the W4000 - Wondering what other users say about them for getting the most out of Vegas Pro 13 - and eventually when Vegas Pro 15 is released.
The W4000 has a very low spec, I wouldn't even try it. Have looked at eBay for used cards? Maybe a Fury X?
The W4000 has a very low spec, I wouldn't even try it. Have looked at eBay for used cards? Maybe a Fury X?
@OldSmoke - Too rich for my budget at this time.
I reinstalled my Radeon 6970 as Windows keeps updating my nVidia drivers and Vegas then no longer recognizes my graphics card. I've tried to disable updating my video drivers but no matter what I try, they keep getting updated. Had it up to my eyeballs in fighting nVidia cards/Drivers and Vegas Pro.
Only concern I have is the 6970 is running pretty warm - idle it sits at around 71-74C!!! My nVidia GTX-660ti ran at least 20 degrees cooler at idle - not sure what to do but given the issues with Windows forcing driver updates to my only desktop no matter what I do to disable that - I'm resigned to the lesser of the two issues - using the 6970 even though it's running warm. Any suggestions on other less expensive cards? I'm not editing 4K (although I am editing 2.7K footage from my drone on occasion) - Trying to find a balance of price/performance. Have debated about whether to get a 4GB card but I have no idea if Vegas can make use of the memory in the card or if I should just stick with a 2GB card.
Thoughts?
Even a R9 290X will do you just fine.
Even a R9 290X will do you just fine.
What about an R9 270x 4GB card? And yes, I'm still on an x58 Hex core desktop so not sure how much graphics card I need given there will probably be a bottleneck for anything newer.
I have no experience with the 270X.
I would go with the Firepro V7900 why? because it's the most powerful FirePro card based on 6000 series (I did my research), 1280 Stream Processors should be plenty, a very old HD 5750 card (720 Stream Processors) that I also have handles Vegas, VPX, Edius etc pretty good so I don't see why the V7900 it wouldn't, In fact I have ordered it that one because they go cheap on ebay so why not? Originally I was going to get the newest Radeon Pro WX 3100 (budget card) but I have decided to wait for RX VEGA :)
I would go with the Firepro V7900 why? because it's the most powerful FirePro card based on 6000 series (I did my research), 1280 Stream Processors should be plenty, a very old HD 5750 card (720 Stream Processors) that I also have handles Vegas, VPX, Edius etc pretty good so I don't see why the V7900 it wouldn't, In fact I have ordered it that one because they go cheap on ebay so why not? Originally I was going to get the newest Radeon Pro WX 3100 (budget card) but I have decided to wait for RX VEGA :)
The V7900 has about the same spec as. RX270. I personally would buy something that can last me longer, I am sure you will be editing 4K pretty soon.
RX Vega is out and is showing issues with the current VP14 version, nobody knows what VP15 will bring.
I would go with the Firepro V7900 why? because it's the most powerful FirePro card based on 6000 series (I did my research), 1280 Stream Processors should be plenty, a very old HD 5750 card (720 Stream Processors) that I also have handles Vegas, VPX, Edius etc pretty good so I don't see why the V7900 it wouldn't, In fact I have ordered it that one because they go cheap on ebay so why not? Originally I was going to get the newest Radeon Pro WX 3100 (budget card) but I have decided to wait for RX VEGA :)
The V7900 has about the same spec as. RX270. I personally would buy something that can last me longer, I am sure you will be editing 4K pretty soon.
RX Vega is out and is showing issues with the current VP14 version, nobody knows what VP15 will bring.
Tbh I just bought that FirePro bc Ive never had a workstation card before, I have the RX 480 as well and I'm more than happy with it and good news is that apparently I will be able to run both of them on the same computer which is also good :), but you are right in the long term I would choose something like the RX 480 no doubts
I would go with the Firepro V7900 why? because it's the most powerful FirePro card based on 6000 series (I did my research), 1280 Stream Processors should be plenty, a very old HD 5750 card (720 Stream Processors) that I also have handles Vegas, VPX, Edius etc pretty good so I don't see why the V7900 it wouldn't, In fact I have ordered it that one because they go cheap on ebay so why not? Originally I was going to get the newest Radeon Pro WX 3100 (budget card) but I have decided to wait for RX VEGA :)
The V7900 has about the same spec as. RX270. I personally would buy something that can last me longer, I am sure you will be editing 4K pretty soon.
RX Vega is out and is showing issues with the current VP14 version, nobody knows what VP15 will bring.
Tbh I just bought that FirePro bc Ive never had a workstation card before, I have the RX 480 as well and I'm more than happy with it and good news is that apparently I will be able to run both of them on the same computer which is also good :), but you are right in the long term I would choose something like the RX 480 no doubts
Hey! igniz-krizalid you can edit with your radeon rx 480 in 4k above 30fps in preview? What is your pc spec? I plan to buy one AMD card for edit 4k fluid, my GTX 770 have lag was a fuck! Sorry my ing.
I have found some reasonable prices on the AMD FirePro™ W7000 on ebay - any thoughts on this card? TBH, I'd like a true workstation class GPU driving Vegas Pro and the RX series cards are over priced due to high demand for using them for Bitcoin and Etherium mining
I would go with the Firepro V7900 why? because it's the most powerful FirePro card based on 6000 series (I did my research), 1280 Stream Processors should be plenty, a very old HD 5750 card (720 Stream Processors) that I also have handles Vegas, VPX, Edius etc pretty good so I don't see why the V7900 it wouldn't, In fact I have ordered it that one because they go cheap on ebay so why not? Originally I was going to get the newest Radeon Pro WX 3100 (budget card) but I have decided to wait for RX VEGA :)
The V7900 has about the same spec as. RX270. I personally would buy something that can last me longer, I am sure you will be editing 4K pretty soon.
RX Vega is out and is showing issues with the current VP14 version, nobody knows what VP15 will bring.
Tbh I just bought that FirePro bc Ive never had a workstation card before, I have the RX 480 as well and I'm more than happy with it and good news is that apparently I will be able to run both of them on the same computer which is also good :), but you are right in the long term I would choose something like the RX 480 no doubtsHey! igniz-krizalid you can edit with your radeon rx 480 in 4k above 30fps in preview? What is your pc spec? I plan to buy one AMD card for edit 4k fluid, my GTX 770 have lag was a fuck! Sorry my ing.
Hell yeah no problem there, I can edit at 4K using the RX 480 but keep in mind that I'm using a 1200p monitor, these are my specs: 1800X, RX 480 and 2X8GB 3200 CL14, I still have a i7 6700K pc and it's good but when it comes to rendering and heavy loaded effects in the timeline such as neatvideo V4 there is nothing the i7 can do against the 1800X, definitely more cores really matters no matter what others says... pure 4K on a 4K monitor? I would probably have to overclock my 1800X and get a much more powerful card but I'm not sure bc I haven't gone beyond 1200p yet
The RX 480 is one of the best option, very solid card it works pretty well with all of my other NLEs, the other day I emailed AMD with this question, what was the benefit of buying the Pro WX 7100 (expensive one) over the RX 480 for video editing and they said the is no reason to buy a professional card for video editing unless I do 3D, autoCAD and things like that
The RX 480 is one of the best option, very solid card it works pretty well with all of my other NLEs, the other day I emailed AMD with this question, what was the benefit of buying the Pro WX 7100 (expensive one) over the RX 480 for video editing and they said the is no reason to buy a professional card for video editing unless I do 3D, autoCAD and things like that
If I could afford the RX480, I'd get one - problem is there's a shortage and the prices for the cards - if you can find one, are ridiculous. I'm looking at a W7000 as I can't seem to find another card with the same specs at a price I can afford - Given I know little if anything about AMD tech - having used nVidia the whole time - I'm unsure of what card to get that can match the specs of the W7000 card for the price I'm seeing it selling for - Basically around $150 for a card which you can't touch a 4GB Radeon card for that price as far as I can tell. I'm recently switching from PPro CS6 to Vegas Pro and want as smooth an editing experience as well as pay a reasonable price for a more updated graphics card (Currently using a GTX-660ti).
Maybe I'm asking too much on this - but it's why I started this thread to see what other Vegas users have to say about improving the editing experience with Vegas Pro 13.
I would go with the Firepro V7900 why? because it's the most powerful FirePro card based on 6000 series (I did my research), 1280 Stream Processors should be plenty, a very old HD 5750 card (720 Stream Processors) that I also have handles Vegas, VPX, Edius etc pretty good so I don't see why the V7900 it wouldn't, In fact I have ordered it that one because they go cheap on ebay so why not? Originally I was going to get the newest Radeon Pro WX 3100 (budget card) but I have decided to wait for RX VEGA :)
The V7900 has about the same spec as. RX270. I personally would buy something that can last me longer, I am sure you will be editing 4K pretty soon.
RX Vega is out and is showing issues with the current VP14 version, nobody knows what VP15 will bring.
Tbh I just bought that FirePro bc Ive never had a workstation card before, I have the RX 480 as well and I'm more than happy with it and good news is that apparently I will be able to run both of them on the same computer which is also good :), but you are right in the long term I would choose something like the RX 480 no doubtsHey! igniz-krizalid you can edit with your radeon rx 480 in 4k above 30fps in preview? What is your pc spec? I plan to buy one AMD card for edit 4k fluid, my GTX 770 have lag was a fuck! Sorry my ing.
Hell yeah no problem there, I can edit at 4K using the RX 480 but keep in mind that I'm using a 1200p monitor, these are my specs: 1800X, RX 480 and 2X8GB 3200 CL14, I still have a i7 6700K pc and it's good but when it comes to rendering and heavy loaded effects in the timeline such as neatvideo V4 there is nothing the i7 can do against the 1800X, definitely more cores really matters no matter what others says... pure 4K on a 4K monitor? I would probably have to overclock my 1800X and get a much more powerful card but I'm not sure bc I haven't gone beyond 1200p yet
The RX 480 is one of the best option, very solid card it works pretty well with all of my other NLEs, the other day I emailed AMD with this question, what was the benefit of buying the Pro WX 7100 (expensive one) over the RX 480 for video editing and they said the is no reason to buy a professional card for video editing unless I do 3D, autoCAD and things like that
igniz-krizalid Really thanks by reply.
My problem is that, have one gpu can handle preview/edit/render 4K(100Mbps) minimum at 30fps with with FX in 4k display.
One more time thanks!
I have had a W7100 for about a year and half and posted some rendering speed comparisons about that time. Has been working great, and AMD has been consistent with updating the driver.
I have had a W7100 for about a year and half and posted some rendering speed comparisons about that time. Has been working great, and AMD has been consistent with updating the driver.
This is the card I'm looking to purchase: AMD Firepro W7000 - I have no idea if this will work for my current needs as well as future proofing for when I move to 4K - thoughts? @OldSmoke
I personally would not buy a workstation card. Dollar for Dollar they are usually a quarter of the spec of a gamers/regular card. I can't even find how many compute units this card has and the memory bandwidth is rather low too. I doubt that this card is what one would call future proof. Include the fact that nobody knows what the future holds. But regardless of what comes in the future, one thing is sure, it will be for higher spec cards in mind, meaning forward looking rather than backwards.
If your budget doesn't allow for a higher spec card I would rather wait. Even the best GPU can't over comes short comings of an old system. I also consider my system to be old but at least it holds up well even when compared to the latest technology; and I mean editing with Vegas and nothing else. I am not interested in benchmark comparison outside the realm of Vegas, they have no meaning what so ever. Currently, the only true meaning lies in the old SCS Benchmark project, especially when upscaled to 4K. Recent test have shown that at that point even the Ryzen isn't all that good.
I personally would not buy a workstation card. Dollar for Dollar they are usually a quarter of the spec of a gamers/regular card. I can't even find how many compute units this card has and the memory bandwidth is rather low too. I doubt that this card is what one would call future proof. Include the fact that nobody knows what the future holds. But regardless of what comes in the future, one thing is sure, it will be for higher spec cards in mind, meaning forward looking rather than backwards.
If your budget doesn't allow for a higher spec card I would rather wait. Even the best GPU can't over comes short comings of an old system. I also consider my system to be old but at least it holds up well even when compared to the latest technology; and I mean editing with Vegas and nothing else. I am not interested in benchmark comparison outside the realm of Vegas, they have no meaning what so ever. Currently, the only true meaning lies in the old SCS Benchmark project, especially when upscaled to 4K. Recent test have shown that at that point even the Ryzen isn't all that good.
@OldSmoke - I appreciate your candor on this. Given what I've been reading from everyone else, I felt as though I SHOULD be using an AMD card for the best experience possible editing in Vegas Pro. TBH, my GTX-660ti seems to be working ok, given the odd crash on closing of VP13 - other than that, my only thought has been whether I would see a more fluid timeline playback experience with my 2.7K Drone Footage. I've been using Neat Video for video noise reduction from my other footage at times and when trying to utilize my CUDA GPU, it throws error messages and then crashes Vegas Pro 13. Leave the settings to CPU only within Neat Video, it works fine - albeit at most 6fps in prevew 1/2 rez - wasn't sure if an AMD card would help with that for timeline playback. I haven't found another plugin solution for noise removal so far in Vegas as I used Red Giant's Denoiser II in Premiere Pro CS6 and saw similar performance issues with that plugin and there's no GPU acceleration at all with that or Magic Bullet Looks from what I've read.
NeatVideo is a great plugin for noise reduction but, it is very compute intensive. Even on my system, 3930K and a Fury X, 4K 30p footage preview drops to 10-15fps. 1080 60p is a bit better, around 30fps.
If NeatVideo is your only concern, than I wouldn't do anything. I actually don't use NeatVideo inside the actual project anymore. I finish editing, render to XAVC-I as an intermediate and than apply NeatVideo. Or, if I have different cameras, I apply it before editing and work with the already noise reduced clips.
NeatVideo is a great plugin for noise reduction but, it is very compute intensive. Even on my system, 3930K and a Fury X, 4K 30p footage preview drops to 10-15fps. 1080 60p is a bit better, around 30fps.
If NeatVideo is your only concern, than I wouldn't do anything. I actually don't use NeatVideo inside the actual project anymore. I finish editing, render to XAVC-I as an intermediate and than apply NeatVideo. Or, if I have different cameras, I apply it before editing and work with the already noise reduced clips.
Well, at least you're getting better playback for 1080p - me not so much running an x58 mobo, water cooled Xeon 5670 CPU OC'd to about 3.8ghz and 24GB RAM with a GTX-660ti GPU. A major desktop upgrade isn't possible right now hence my asking about the AMD card to extend usability of my current system. Glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing sluggish playback of the timeline.
NeatVideo is a great plugin for noise reduction but, it is very compute intensive. Even on my system, 3930K and a Fury X, 4K 30p footage preview drops to 10-15fps. 1080 60p is a bit better, around 30fps.
If NeatVideo is your only concern, than I wouldn't do anything. I actually don't use NeatVideo inside the actual project anymore. I finish editing, render to XAVC-I as an intermediate and than apply NeatVideo. Or, if I have different cameras, I apply it before editing and work with the already noise reduced clips.
Well, at least you're getting better playback for 1080p - me not so much running an x58 mobo, water cooled Xeon 5670 CPU OC'd to about 3.8ghz and 24GB RAM with a GTX-660ti GPU. A major desktop upgrade isn't possible right now hence my asking about the AMD card to extend usability of my current system. Glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing sluggish playback of the timeline.
Sluggish only with NeatVideo or 4K ina 32bit project preview at Best/Full.
As I mentioned earlier, a R9 290 or 290X would serve you well.
I'm curious to see given that the announcement of VP15 is coming soon - I'm wondering what changes under the hood have taken place for GPU support - and is why I held out on upgrading to VP14 - I"m hoping that MAGIX has incorporated better support for nVidia GPU's - if not, then I'll for sure be looking at the upgrade to an AMD based card.
I'm curious to see given that the announcement of VP15 is coming soon - I'm wondering what changes under the hood have taken place for GPU support - and is why I held out on upgrading to VP14 - I"m hoping that MAGIX has incorporated better support for nVidia GPU's - if not, then I'll for sure be looking at the upgrade to an AMD based card.
I honestly have my doubts anything would change with regards to GPU accelerated rendering. The two codecs that allowed for it where Sony AVC and MC AVC. Both are not written by MAGIX and would require a complete rewrite. General GPU acceleration may improve but I doubt that too unless the core code of the NLE has been re-written.
Let's hope MAGIX proves me wrong.
IMO, I think being optimized for OpenCL has been a weakness for Vegas... All those nVidia GPU's out there and Vegas really can't utilize them... Adobe, Avid and Blackmagic have seen the light and made their apps work with both sides of the GPU line. Not to say OpenCL is a bad thing, just somewhat limiting in potential user base
OpenCL/GL are open source code, CUDA is not; basically a matter of cost. The other issue is CUDA is not necessarily backwards compatible; if NVIDIA feels like it, architecture will change.