An SP3 Gotcha

Dave McCallister wrote on 8/18/2008, 1:52 PM
After installing SP3 my firewire connection was no longer seeing the VTR I use to view DV on a Sony monitor. Computer is a MacPro with Boot Camp/XP. The Apple side worked fine with FCP. But Vegas was hosed. So the hardware was OK (one nice thing about a dual OS box).

Long story short: Micro$oft in their infinite wisdom insist on seeing a 1394 connection an ethernet connection, and slapped a firewall on it with SP3 that meant it could no longer talk to anybody. I guess too many cameras and VTRs harbor nasty viruses.

This firewall can be nuked with tweaks in network properties, but really, has ANYONE ever seen a firewire port used to talk to a router? Someone should clue Redmond in on what 1394 ports are used for.

Dave McCallister

Comments

Robert W wrote on 8/18/2008, 2:17 PM
Actually, I've used firewire as a fast network link from one machien to another. It works really well. Well on SP2 anyway. But I don't see why they firewall it for camera devices?
TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/18/2008, 2:48 PM
SP3 didn't mess up my camera connecting. might be your VTR "talks" differently then a camera.
Marc S wrote on 8/18/2008, 3:11 PM
I tried SP3 on my main edit computer and it would no longer boot. Decided that SP2 works fine for me.
johnmeyer wrote on 8/18/2008, 6:57 PM
Why do people keep insisting on updating their computers when there are no new end-user features?

My advice: turn off auto-updates, and then never do manual updates unless there is a feature you absolutely, positively need in order to get something done.

Updates are NOT your friend.
Opampman wrote on 8/18/2008, 7:33 PM
Here here, John. I never update unless there is somthing I need. MS does NOT know better than I what my computer needs!
UlfLaursen wrote on 8/18/2008, 9:10 PM
My advice: turn off auto-updates, and then never do manual updates unless there is a feature you absolutely, positively need in order to get something done.

Exactly - if it is not broke - don't fix it :-)

/Ulf
rstrong wrote on 8/21/2008, 12:16 PM
I agree too, updates from MS can really suck!

R. Strong

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JoeMess wrote on 8/22/2008, 12:53 AM
Guys,

I was a technical evangelist at MS for two years of Vista's development cycle. There were huge improvements made in many of the device stacks when server 2003, and the XP-64 release were being developed. In addition, there was quite a bit of enhancements to the legacy stacks there were designed during the Vista development that are now in SP3. As long as you have hardware without known compat issues, you will see a huge improvement in system performance with XP SP3. As a matter of fact, I am curious why they even let it out as it only delays more users from making the jump to Vista. As a secondary note, Vista SP1 is quite an improvement over the Gold release. Although, it is not so night and day as regular updates on Vista Gold fixed quite a few of the glaring issues over time.

Joe
dibbkd wrote on 8/23/2008, 5:15 AM
quote: "Here here, John. I never update unless there is somthing I need. MS does NOT know better than I what my computer needs!"

They don't? Didn't they create the OS that you are using?

You don't think they know when something needs a patch?

You really read each MS update detailed description and research it to make sure you absolutely need it before installing it?
farss wrote on 8/23/2008, 5:51 AM
"Why do people keep insisting on updating their computers when there are no new end-user features?"

How about keeping the thing secure?
Kapesky released details of two security holes in Intel's instruction set at the last Black Hat convention. This exploit affects all OSs that run on Intel including Linux and OSX. You think you're safe because your computer isn't connected to the Internet, think again. Just a few week ago we had two machines infected with we're still not certain what through a USB thumb drive. No, no one ran an executable file from it either.

Bob.


GlennChan wrote on 8/23/2008, 8:58 AM
Windows will autorun stuff from USB thumb drives. #@$!@$#%!%$#!@$#!@#$

If you take a USB key to a copy shop, assume that it will come back with a virus. Lock the drive so that it can't be written to, or plug it into a non-WIndows computer to delete any viruses off it.