Any way to make keyframe-display scaling "stay"?

earthrisers wrote on 3/13/2010, 5:22 PM
I've submitted a Feature Request about this, but I'm posting here, too, just in case there's a workaround that I don't know about..

Oftentimes when I'm doing multicamera editing in Vegas I have 2 or more Media FX applied to a video file (for example, Levels and Color Curves), and very often I need to place keyframes in the FX.
When I place a keyframe in one Effect - say, at 55 minutes into the timeline, I horizontally expand the keyframe display so that I can place the keyframe exactly where I want it. And more often as not, I also want to place a keyframe in another Effect at exactly the same point. But when I click in the key-timeline for the other Effect, the horizontal scale reverts to its original size (much too compressed for my current purpose), and I have to go through the process of re-expanding and precisely positioning again, from scratch. Then have to do it yet again, if I want to apply a keyframe in another Effect. And so on.
I wish the keyframe "scaling" would stay "as is", once I set it the way I want. Is there any way to force it to do that?

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xberk wrote on 3/13/2010, 6:43 PM
I wish the keyframe "scaling" would stay "as is", once I set it the way I want. Is there any way to force it to do that?

I don't know a way to do this -- but if I understand here's a suggestion:
- copy the event that has the first FX applied to it and keyframed exactly where you want it.
- apply a different FX to the second multicam event.
- do a "paste event attributes" to the second event. This will give you an exact guide to placing the keyframe at the same exact spot. Then delete the unwanted FX.

Does this work?

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baysidebas wrote on 3/13/2010, 7:12 PM
Any reason "sync cursor" wouldn't help you with this?
earthrisers wrote on 3/16/2010, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the "paste attributes" suggestion -- I'll give it a try, although I anticipate that for my present purposes it might involve even more steps than re-expanding the FX timeline and re-locating the desired point for keyframing. (I'm working in multicam editing, and my timeline is typically for a whole show, not divided into events.)

Also, alas, "synch cursor" is grayed-out when you're applying FX to Project Media, as opposed to a track. Usually, I want to affect the lighting (or whatever) for a particular section of one camera's footage, without affecting the lighting on the other camera(s). Can't do that within TrackFX, only within Project Media FX.
baysidebas wrote on 3/16/2010, 12:53 PM
Wow, didn't realize that sync cursor isn't available at the media level FX. Wonder why....

But that may be moot since I've been able to precisely position keyframes for media level FX by the following method:

Select the FX with the "reference" keyframe,

use the previous/next keyframe buttons to navigate to the keyframe position you want to sync to,

click on the target FX to select it (at left, make sure you don't click inside the TL as that will shift the cursor position)

click on the create keyframe button (or press the insert key)

Presto! you now have a keyframe synchronized to the one on the "reference" FX

Caveat, I derived the above in a quick and dirty check, there's always the possibility that there may be pitfalls lurking in the method.
earthrisers wrote on 3/19/2010, 9:19 AM
Nice!! Thank you!

The keyframe timeline still "recompresses" when I insert the new keyframe at the selected reference point --- but the new keyframe is indeed placed exactly where I want it, and it's relatively little bother to re-expand the keyframe timeline to continue working from that point.

So the very annoying Vegas behavior has now been reduced to only a mildly annoying behavior -- thanks again for the suggestion.
rs170a wrote on 3/19/2010, 9:39 AM
Wow, didn't realize that sync cursor isn't available at the media level FX. Wonder why....

My guess is that it's because, when you have an event on the timeline, odds are pretty good that it's not the entire event like it is while it's still in Project Media.
Timeline location is another unknown when it's still in Project Media (applicable to track and output FX).

Mike