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karlc wrote on 6/11/2000, 6:22 PM
Yep, missing here also (Build 302) ... FWIW.

Then again, this is the first I've seen of the program, since we
didn't get the beta.

KAC ...

David W. Ruby wrote:
>>in the purchased Vegas Video 2.0.?
>>I purchased the upgrade and there is no meters on the
>>bottom screen.Strange.Must have just been for the beta eh?
pwppch wrote on 6/12/2000, 7:44 AM
They are gone. We found that they were generally useless. They did
not account for true measure of performance and didn't indicate the
true load of the system. They didn't help in indicating impending
doom or available resources.

We are looking at alternatives.

Peter


David W. Ruby wrote:
>>in the purchased Vegas Video 2.0.?
>>I purchased the upgrade and there is no meters on the
>>bottom screen.Strange.Must have just been for the beta eh?
karlc wrote on 6/12/2000, 9:11 AM

I realize that this is a new product, but I would bet that many of
your customers purchase this version because of their past
association with VP.

What I would like to see is more technical information in
the "readme.doc" file with regard to issues like the removal of the
meters under discussion and, in particular, what's new (difference in
audio features from ver 1 in particular)and installation issues with
older versions with regard to directories, plugins, whether to
uninstall the older version first, etc.

IMO, the release notes now read more like additional marketing hype
for the Video side. Your user base is proabably a bit more
sophisticated in technical matters than the average software
purchaser and are more likely to read and benefit from a more "under
the hood" approach to this information.

On that subject, and I may have just missed it, where can we get
information and/or a list of exactly what new features and changes
are on the audio side?

Thanks.

KAC ...

Peter Haller wrote:

>>They are gone. We found that they were generally useless. They did
>>not account for true measure of performance and didn't indicate the
>>true load of the system. They didn't help in indicating impending
>>doom or available resources.
CDM wrote on 6/12/2000, 10:34 AM
Ok - I will try my hand at this since I have been working pretty
heavily with the Beta for some time now and I'm mostly an audio user
like yourself:
The Obvious:
Envelopes:
- You can now lock envelopes to events (like in Acid, though
they don't exist exclusively WITHIN events). This allows you to move
events along with their respective envelopes without having to copy
eenvelope points.
- You can copy and pste envelopes. Plus there are some
enhancements to the "look and feel" of envelopes and how they the
points move.
- When you're in the "envelope tool", you can't move events.
So, it is now truly an envelope tool.
- You can now use the "V" key to show/hide the volume envelope
rather then having it remove the envelope altogether. Thanks!

FX:
- You can now use I think almost any DirectX effect on a
track as a real-time effect.
- You can now apply non-realtime effects to an event (i.e.
process an effect or group of effects on an event and have it appear
as a "take" within that event) Very handy.

Metronome:
- There is now a metronome feature which has both a built in
woodblock sound and an assignable option for playback and record with
a metronome. The Project Properties page controls the tempo. Very
cool.

Grouping:
- This has changed a bit. It no longer controls the selection
of events. When you click on a group it no longer selects all events
in that group. When you move a group, it just hightlights the group
with a darker blue line. When you just click an d drag a group by
selecting only one event in the group, that is the only event that
will move to a different track if you drag down or up. Grouping can
be done or undone with the G and U keys.
- There is a new feature called "Ignore Event Grouping" which
overrides all grouping and allows you to move things around and then
regroup those events in their new positions. Very handy, guys!

The Not-So_Obvious:

Editing:
- There are some really nice new event editing controls.
I'll attach ana explanation given to me by SF:

Slip: Alt Slips media within an event (start
and end don't move)

Slip Trim: Alt Moves start or end time of event
and slips media along with edge

Trim Adjacent: Ctrl+Alt Trims start or end of event
simultaneously with end or start of adjacent event

Slide: Ctrl+Alt Simultaneously trims start and end
of event, leaving media "in place"

Slide Crossfade: Ctrl+Alt Slides auto-crossfade region


Move, Slip, and Slide are done inside an event.

Trim, Slip Trim, Trim Adjacent, and Stretch are done on an event edge.

Slide Crossfade is done inside or on the edge of a crossfade

Play around with those. They are very handy.

Recording:
- Please see my previous post on Punching In and
Punching Out. I think a lot of people have missed the felxibility
here...

- There is a new option in the Prefs which allows you to
turn off the "show waveforms" while recording. Psychologically this
can be helpful if you think it's using up CPU drawing the waveforms.

- There is a right-click menu on the track arm button
which allows you to setup your record inputs before you arm to record.

- There is now an option (default) to create a backup
project file called .veg.bak in case of a crash)


well, that's it for now. Back to work. Hope this helps. :)



Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>
>>I realize that this is a new product, but I would bet that many of
>>your customers purchase this version because of their past
>>association with VP.
>>
>>What I would like to see is more technical information in
>>the "readme.doc" file with regard to issues like the removal of the
>>meters under discussion and, in particular, what's new (difference
in
>>audio features from ver 1 in particular)and installation issues
with
>>older versions with regard to directories, plugins, whether to
>>uninstall the older version first, etc.
>>
>>IMO, the release notes now read more like additional marketing hype
>>for the Video side. Your user base is proabably a bit more
>>sophisticated in technical matters than the average software
>>purchaser and are more likely to read and benefit from a
more "under
>>the hood" approach to this information.
>>
>>On that subject, and I may have just missed it, where can we get
>>information and/or a list of exactly what new features and changes
>>are on the audio side?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>KAC ...
>>
>>Peter Haller wrote:
>>
>>>>They are gone. We found that they were generally useless. They
did
>>>>not account for true measure of performance and didn't indicate
the
>>>>true load of the system. They didn't help in indicating impending
>>>>doom or available resources.
>>
karlc wrote on 6/12/2000, 9:30 PM
Thanks, Charles. Duly printed out and put in the studio's manual
binder! Some of these are going to take some looking at ... have a
mix session this Wednesday and Thursday and am planning on trying out
VV for the first time for real, so your post will indeed come in
handy.

Thanks again.

KAC ...



Charles de Montebello wrote:


>>well, that's it for now. Back to work. Hope this helps. :)
ThomasATL wrote on 6/12/2000, 11:33 PM
Charles, your posts are worth the time of coming to this forum.
Again, thanks.

Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>Thanks, Charles. Duly printed out and put in the studio's manual
>>binder! Some of these are going to take some looking at ... have a
>>mix session this Wednesday and Thursday and am planning on trying
out
>>VV for the first time for real, so your post will indeed come in
>>handy.
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>KAC ...
>>
>>
>>
>>Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>well, that's it for now. Back to work. Hope this helps. :)
>>