Twichy? .. I like that. It describes it. V9 may not be ready for prime time. At least it's not for me.

Right now V9 is terrible. It is V8 with a mediocre graphic upgrade, preview ram default bumped to 356 and bugs added to taste. V8 with a rebuild peaks fix would be close to perfect.

Let's not forget about bringing back the color picker in chroma key that maps out a broad swath fo the green screen. A dot is unprofessional and, ahem, useless.

The color picker still works the way it ever did - just the rectangle when dragging the mouse can't be seen no more.

V9 runs perfectly on my two systems I use it. Both dualcores on Win XP.

Marco

I for sure regret paying the upgrade.
I wonder who did the (beta) testing. Those guys should be fired or worse. V9 is a major disaster and I'm glad I still have V8 on my system which does not hang loading VST plug-ins and offers a decent AVCH preview.
Also, I hate the dark grey desktop. Should be an option.
What a downright major dissappointment and another dent in Sony's image...

The only thing that stands out for me in Pro 9 [64bit] is the stutter in playback while previewing clips. Once I drag them on to the timeline though it isn't an issue as the playback is smooth as expected.
No other new issues to report so far.

I have had a few problems with the trimmer/preview and the canvas/preview along with a codec issue too. So far it needs a major update in my opinion. I had to jump back to pro 8 a few times to finish things up

V9 works a lot better than V8 ever did for me, the preview window is scalable and faster, scrubbing is much more effective, I'm using a dualcore w/4gigs ram winxp setup, works great.

Once I got through the visual anomolies and some new functions it seems like V8.0 but haven't tested a lot of stuff yet. There are some new options in preferances about which am not familair. I wish they would list all the new options and what they are for. I'm one of the dumb ones that finds out the hard way. Most of what this software does is way over my head anyway.
JJK

Actually the dark GUI is just an option.

Marco

It's always the "a" version that you start to work off of. Nothing new here. You saved $ by upgrading now and when "a" comes out you will be using it as your editor.

For me (running 32bit version on Vista) Pro 9 seems slower in general. It takes longer for dialog boxes to open, the preview and audio are out of sync when I use Optimal playback and there are effects on the time line, MainConcept MP4 crashes for me on HD render if I check Two_pass render and the box doesn't draw for color selection. However, I am using it to open previous projects, tweak a little and render to MP4 for Vimeo. So I am using it to do some light lifting.
I reported the MP4 crash and the drag box to Sony.

I agree that VP9 is a litle "sketchy". Things seem to work OK sometimes and sometimes not. I don't think it's nearly as smooth as VP8b which has been a workhorse for me. I'm trying to finish some bumpers in VP9 and finally got them done, but it was like pulling teeth - even down to the render. I'm glad I got VP9, but I will wait for "a" at least to do anything serious.

So far I'm hearing that those running WinXP on dual cores seem the happiest with V9 .. Just a coincidence? .. Anyone running Vista 64 as happy?

I see little strange things in Vista 64 that I don't see inXp 32. Like stutters, speeding up slowing down, like jumping a fram or two ahead etc. Even when not running Cineform, just uncompressed AVI.. Pro 9 needs to get ine tuned and get better interaction with the streaming hard drives i think. Especially during dissolves or right after a dissolve it behave funny quite often.

SOmetime however, it can be beter than Pro 8. Pro 9 is basically performing better. It's only that it isn't as solid and stable in its streaming and thus really not really read for production use.

I spent the eniter Sunday working and I thought I should give Pro 9 a serious go but after an hour I gave up and realized I had to do the work in Pro 8.

Pro 9 is great and will be great, but I dont feel really good about it yet...

Well, you guys have convinced me ... VP8 is staying right here and I will keep the VP9 serial numbers handy for when the next patched version comes out :-) (but, I did get the box !! ) :-)

mikey

I'm not seeing any crashes or freeze ups, but the playback to the secondary display is so latent that I can't use it for editing. Also my secondary display corrupts when I use selective pre-rendering until I close the application and open it again.

p4 at 3.4ghz
4 gb ram
Nvidia Quara FX 3400

It's always the "a" version that you start to work off of. Nothing new here. You saved $ by upgrading now and when "a" comes out you will be using it as your editor.

Don't be so sure you'd be saving any money. You could actually be losing money. Vegas 8 came out in September '07. I bought the upgrade in Dec. '07 for $120 from B&H, boxed, and I think at the time Sony was still charging like $250 for it. So the $50 they used to suck you in right now could mean you're still paying more that what you will a few months from now, and what you're paying for right now is a mediocre beta version.

VP9 on 64 bit vista with 8 gig ram, dual Q9300 runs very smooth previews of HD on external monitor and internal view window at best auto.

V9 runs quite smoothly for me. I'm not however overjoyed with the new preview quirkiness but that's life. We'll see if gets any better with 9a

"VP9 on 64 bit vista with 8 gig ram, dual Q9300 runs very smooth previews of HD on external monitor and internal view window at best auto"


1. what is your source footage material that you're running? Frame size in project settings etc?

2. Are you using Cineform?

3. Do you achieve full frame rate during dissolves?



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Lars

1) Source is avchd 1920x1080 from a sony sr11

2) no to Cineform

3) Playback skip/jumps through dissolves/effects.... but then I'm not sure there is ANY software that will playback dissolves/effects in real time with avchd. Sony Vegas has SHIFT-B for this anyway so it's not an issue.

Still using XP Pro here, and I've not yet seen any problems with V9.