Anyone tried using Vegas with joystick?

aboukirev wrote on 2/26/2003, 6:48 PM
I see there are three profiles and readme about button and movement assignment. I'm using ShuttlePro and don't have a joystick. Interesting to know what is the feel of it compared to keyboard/mouse/shuttle.
Of course, it's best for sound panning and color correction. I'm mostly interested in the latter.

Thanks for any feedback

Alexei

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Nat wrote on 2/26/2003, 6:52 PM
How would you assign the joystick to Vegas ?

I have a joystick but can't think of a way Vegas could use it...
aboukirev wrote on 2/26/2003, 7:30 PM
There is a subdirectory 'Joystick Profiles' where Vegas 4 is installed. You have to have a profile (.ini file) with name matching your joystick model (see readme file there). Unfortunately it only has three profiles now. But if you have a model similar to one of these (probably same vendor), you could try to copy existing profile and rename the file copy to match your joystick name. Then theoretically Vegas should pick it up.
This is for Vegas 4 only, I understand.

Alexei
Nat wrote on 2/26/2003, 7:36 PM
Wow, guess my rumblepad will be used for other things than playing tony hawk3..
Nat wrote on 2/26/2003, 8:58 PM
I found a bug with the joystick implentation.
When I on the Mixer focus, If I hit button six it will popup the surround panner, but my project is stereo, and that makes the program crash.
Nat wrote on 2/26/2003, 9:02 PM
Also, audio srubbing with the joystick would be nice...
aboukirev wrote on 2/26/2003, 9:42 PM
What about scrubbing video - does it work? How is it compared to JKL keys on keyboard?
Nat wrote on 2/26/2003, 9:59 PM
No video scrubbing...
nlamartina wrote on 2/27/2003, 12:05 AM
The joystick support was primarily designed to allow you to bind the axes to the color wheels for greater control when adjusting. I had no idea that it also allowed you to navigate the UI. I'd like to play too, but I can't get Win2k to recognize my stick. Win98SE doesn't have a problem with it though. Too bad.

- Nick
SonyDennis wrote on 2/27/2003, 9:40 AM
The joystick is covered in the help topic "Using a Joystick". The primary functions are for surround panning, stereo panning, volume levels, and color correction.

It's not meant to replace the ShuttlePRO, and, in fact, works very nicely in conjunction with the ShuttlePRO or SpaceShuttle A/V.

Nat: thanks for the bug report, now fixed for 4.0b

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Nat wrote on 2/27/2003, 12:27 PM
Dennis :
In the help section, it says the Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback 2 joystick had vibration feedback in Vegas.

I have a Logitech Wingman rumblepad, can I have some feedback with it ? How does it work.
Thanks.
Nat wrote on 2/27/2003, 12:47 PM
Ok It's working now, the default Windows drivers for my rumblepad didn't support Vibration feedback, had to install the logitech drivers.

Now, that's funny, my pad vibrates so much I have troubles adjusting the pan lol. Pretty funny, i'll set the vibration level down because my family wonder what is doing that strange vibrating sound hehe.
Nat wrote on 2/27/2003, 3:51 PM
I just configured my Wingman profiler and I can control JKL with my joystick, works pretty well !!!
SonyDennis wrote on 2/28/2003, 5:24 PM
The force feedback referred to in the help is for positional feedback, not vibration feedback. For example, with the MS Wingman FF 2, when you change track focus, the stick moves to the new location.

We don't have a Logitech Wingman rumblepad, so I don't really know what it will do. I'm surprised it's giving vibration feedback, since the only force model used is a spring (no oscillators or pattern playback or anything).

That said, Logitech does some really broken stuff in their drivers. I tried a Wingman Force, and didn't ship the template for it, because the force feedback won't ever "let go" like the MS stick does during moves. It makes using it pretty bad. Plus, the XY resolution is really bad (same thing with a cheap Gravis stick I tried). The MS WM FF 2 is many times better in those respects, and is the stick I personally recommend.

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Nat wrote on 2/28/2003, 10:19 PM
The thing I like with the rumblepad is the format, it's a gamepad, not a joystick.
YOu actually have 2 mini joysticks on it, So I can use one for positioning and the other to scrub, pause and stop the video. It works pretty well. I can also trim with the pad. Kinda like a SpaceShuttle that costs 25 $. The sticks are pretty precise, almost too precise, I have to lower down the sensibility for it to work.
As for the vivration it's pretty funny, the vibration in the x axis is different than in the y axis, so I can no where I am when my eyes are closed (which is useless hehe) The more I pan, the more it vibrates :)
Nat wrote on 2/28/2003, 10:25 PM
Also, a funny thing, if i'm on a track and set the pan at say 20% and leave it at that value, as long as the track is selected, the pad will continue to vibrate, which is very annoying :) But it's quite funny, and much more funny now that I know that the pad shouldn't be doing that hehe.
SonyDennis wrote on 3/15/2003, 6:13 PM
Nat:

I picked one of these up and it does just what you said. I'll look into it, but it might not make the 4.0b update. Fortunately, there's a button right on the front to turn off the rumble, so it's not so bad.

I was impressed with how solid the unit it, not cheap and sloppy like their WingMan joystick. It's not as precise as the Microsoft joystick, but not as bad as the Gravis or Logitech sticks.

Please tell what settings you are using for the other stick and buttons.

Thanks.
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