Anyone using VideoStudio to author HD-DVD to DVDR?

nolonemo wrote on 1/19/2008, 1:31 PM
I'm trying Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus to author HD DVD to DVDRs, using HDV captured to Vegas 8, edited, effects added and then rendered out to m2t using the appropriate template (with audio embedded). For must of the project, Vegas used smart-render, showing that it was not rerendering the video. I've checked the option in VideoStudio to to render compliant files, but it seems to re rerendering the whole project. anyway.

Can anyone who's had success with this post the settings they were using in Vegas and/or Movie Studio. Thanks.

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blink3times wrote on 1/19/2008, 1:57 PM
I have had trouble with BOTH Ulead movie Factory and Video Studio re-rendering.

I now use Pinnacle Studio. I capture/edit with Vegas then export as m2v/wav. Import to studio and it smartrenders COMPLETELY. A forty minute hd timeline smart renders in about 10 minutes. I burn with Verbatim double layer inkjet printables. It comes out perfect every time.

But you can TRY exporting from Vegas as MPG instead of m2t and see if that works (it worked for me about 60% of the time)
Laurence wrote on 1/19/2008, 2:23 PM
Early versions of Ulead Movie Factory would not take an m2t file without rerendering. Recent versions do just fine. I have no problem getting Ulead Movie Factory to take a Vegas render and create either a 3x DVD (HD DVD compatible) or AVCHD disc (Blu-ray compatible) on regular DVD+-R.
nolonemo wrote on 1/19/2008, 2:51 PM
Which version of Pinnacle Studio do you have, do you need the Plus or Ultimate version to author?

It would be so much simpler if DVDA did this. . . .
blink3times wrote on 1/19/2008, 3:35 PM
I have the Ultimate version (11.1) but the lesser version will do. The difference is that a lot of plugins come with the Ult version whereas you have to pay for the various plugins with the lesser version.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Home+Video/Studio+Family/Studio+Plus+11+Documents/Comparision+Chart/
4eyes wrote on 1/20/2008, 6:00 AM
Open VS11, go directly to "Share - Create Disc (make all selections for HD-DVD), this puts you in the burn module.
Load your compliant videos into this burn module using one of the top icons.
Do not carry your video from the VS11 timeline over into the burning module, it doesn't bring the video into the burning module.
It brings the project, which will then be re-encoded, or smart-rendered depending on your settings.
nolonemo wrote on 1/20/2008, 9:25 AM
Thanks 4eyes! That was the problem, skipping the editor timeline avoids the re-rendering.

NOW, why is it that I can't add chapters in the chapter-setting submodule of the share module? The jog bar under the preview window is not active, and the manually add chapters button is greyed out. If I run the add chapers automatically button, the program crashes (I have a 4.5 min test clip, and set the chapter interval at 2 minutes). I should add that the behavior is the same with SD rendered from Vegas and with HD clips.

I've looked on the Ulead forum, I didn't find an answer, most of the posts seem to be people complaining about bugginess and Corel's lack of support.

I'm crossing my fingers that DVDA 5 will have HD DVD functionality and be a free upgrade from 4.5.....

Any suggestions?

Thanks again.
4eyes wrote on 1/20/2008, 12:12 PM
Make sure to download & install the lastest version of Directx 9.0c dated November 2007.
That may fix the chaptering problems and crashing for creating chapters.
The trial version of VS11+ is pretty poor. Doesn't read TS (transport stream) files correctly, usually reads them all as progressively encoded or frame-based. The updates fix those errors.
So if using the trial don't let the program re-encode your videos, you may lose the fielding information. You cannot install updates to the trial version either. The trial version was pretty broken for transport stream video, passing through the encoder should be ok though.

Eventually High Def authoring will be available in DVDA or another app.
I think it takes more coding and work to write a Menu-ed Blu-Ray disk (BDMV) than it does for a standard dvd because of all the different formats and complexity of BDMV disks.
BDMV can be very complex.

Maybe this will be a separate application.
I'm patient to wait, blu-ray burners are still expensive.
nolonemo wrote on 1/20/2008, 3:24 PM
Thanks 4eyes, DirectX fixed the chapter problem. Now all I have to do is figure out why my audio is breaking up and the video stutters a little sometimes on playback from disk. I haven't yet tried a software playback in on a PC with enough horsepower to handle HD streams (I edit on a laptop with a single core P4 2.0Ghz....
Sebaz wrote on 1/20/2008, 4:32 PM
"I have no problem getting Ulead Movie Factory to take a Vegas render and create either a 3x DVD (HD DVD compatible) or AVCHD disc (Blu-ray compatible) on regular DVD+-R."

Are you sure that you can create an AVCHD disc with Movie Factory? I read that you could only create 3x HD-DVDs, but not AVCHD discs. Nero can create them, but recompresses everything and takes an eternity. I would love to have something that would allow me to create HD discs that I can play in my Blu-Ray player. I authored some 3x HD-DVDs with DVD Studio Pro in Mac but HD-DVD will soon be a thing of the past, so I stopped doing that. I capture HD broadcasts from my cable DVR in HD that I want to collect, and so far I haven't found a way to put them in DVDs without recompressing them, except of course for the original TS file as data disc that I can play from my computer, but I want the same in a format that my BRay player can play, but without recompressing because HD broadcasts are highly compressed and pixelated as they are.
blink3times wrote on 1/20/2008, 5:33 PM
So far there is nothing that will "smartrender" AVCHD. It really burns me up too. I go to great extents to avoid re compressing and we may be forced to go blu sooner or later.... which means EVERYTHING gets re compressed.
nolonemo wrote on 1/20/2008, 6:29 PM
Audio and stuttering fixed.

My test burn with the bad audio and stuttering was done on Ritek budget 8x media, burning at 6x. A burn on my good Taio Yuden 8x media (also burned at 6x) plays back with no audio breakup and smooth video. I guess the higher bitrate demands good media.

Thanks again, 4eyes for all of your help.