Anyone using VV5 on a Centrino?

fherr wrote on 5/5/2004, 2:32 PM
Narrowing down my choices for a new laptop, and I've seen conflicting advice about using Centrino CPU laptops. Some of it was just theory, so my question is, does anyone have actual (positive or negative) experience doing digital video editing with Vegas 5 on a Centrino/ M machine? At the moment I'm leaning towards a non-Centrino P4 3GHz CPU, but they're such battery hogs! Are they really quicker enough than Centrinos to make it worthwhile?

Thanks in advance,
- Frank

Comments

Spot|DSE wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:01 PM
Don't even try. Not just Vegas, any 'real' nle won't run. We made this mistake a few months ago. There are some that say it works, I'd say that those that are happy with a Centrino have never done much 'real' editing that uses a lot of CPU. I followed the recommendation of someone in this forum, bought a FAST Centrino system. It's now been handed down to someone else in the office.
Nat wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:04 PM
I have an athlon xp m which is the same type of processor and vv5 runs great on it...
fherr wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:09 PM
> Don't even try. Not just Vegas, any 'real' nle won't run.

Won't run at all, or just significantly slower than non-Centrinos? What were the symptoms? For example, did you get dropped frames during captures, or did it crawl at rendering time?
vidiot57 wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:20 PM
Hello,

I have an HP Centrino 1.5 ghz system.. And have run Vegas 4 for the last six months on it, and just put Vegas5 on it.. and it runs just fine..

If you are getting dropped frames it most likely due to using a slow hard drive.. I am using a firewire drive with this sytem and have never seen one dropped frame..

Vidiot
vidiot57 wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:21 PM
Hello,

I have an HP Centrino 1.5 ghz system.. And have run Vegas 4 for the last six months on it, and just put Vegas5 on it.. and it runs just fine..

If you are getting dropped frames it most likely due to using a slow hard drive.. I am using a firewire drive with this sytem and have never seen one dropped frame..

Vidiot
vidiot57 wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:22 PM
Hello,

I have an HP Centrino 1.5 ghz system.. And have run Vegas 4 for the last six months on it, and just put Vegas5 on it.. and it runs just fine..

If you are getting dropped frames it most likely due to using a slow hard drive.. I am using a firewire drive with this sytem and have never seen one dropped frame..

Vidiot
vidiot57 wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:23 PM
Hello,

I have an HP Centrino 1.5 ghz system.. And have run Vegas 4 for the last six months on it, and just put Vegas5 on it.. and it runs just fine..

If you are getting dropped frames it most likely due to using a slow hard drive.. I am using a firewire drive with this sytem and have never seen one dropped frame..

Vidiot
techead wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:47 PM
I've used it a few times on my Centrino. Smallish projects but none-the-less they ran great. Not as fast as a P4 but that did not matter to me.
Spot|DSE wrote on 5/5/2004, 4:43 PM
Just ran a test of the Centrino vs a P4 nonhyperthread.
Centrino can't play back Quicktime files from the timeline with a blur without dropping frames like mad. Same file, same external hard drive, same cable, P4 2.6 doesn't drop frames. We do EVERYTHING externally. We returned the first unit that we bought, a Sony 505, and got another one because I thought there was a problem with the machine. Second one behaved the same way, we low-level formatted the HD, dropped on a new, clean version of XP minus all the other OS stuff, and it was the same behavior.
So, we went and borrowed an HP machine with a Centrino, same exact story with a few minor differences in the number of frames dropped.
Granted, most of our work is bigger composites through the intro, then titles and color correction and little more, but all of that plays back beautifully on the VAIO GR series. We have 4 GR PIII 1.2 gig proc laptops, and they scream in comparison to the 2.4 Centrino.
kosins wrote on 5/5/2004, 5:12 PM
Frank,
My advice:
Stay with the P4.
The Centrino cannot keep up, and a spare battery is much less expensive than your time if you have an important deadline to make.
I bought one last year. Got rid of it within 30 days.
Yup, that "battery issue" could be important for that salesman on the road, or for "Mr. Spreadsheet" stuck on a runway for three hours, but , for what you do, you will need the best performance your computer can give you, at any time.
I have a couple Inspirons with 3.06 processors, half a gig of ram, ATI 9000 video cards, I use at home, and they almost "keep up" with my desktops at work.

Just my two cents.

John
fherr wrote on 5/5/2004, 7:52 PM
Thanks guys, for sharing the benefit of your experiences. I'm learning that there are two laptop extremes - some that are built for maximum portability, and others that are essentially complete desktop replacements. Since I'll mostly be doing my work in one of two offices (company and home), I guess I don't need to worry so much about how heavy it is, or how quickly the battery is depleted. Sounds like the Centrinos (some anyway) can handle a certain amount of video work, but also there are some real advatages to getting one of the desktop replacement types for my situation.

Thanks again.
- Frank
BGil wrote on 5/5/2004, 9:39 PM
"We have 4 GR PIII 1.2 gig proc laptops, and they scream in comparison to the 2.4 Centrino. "

There's no such thing as a 2.4ghz Centrino. You probably bought a 2.4 Celeron which would indeed be very very slow. The Centrino is not. It smokes the PIII 1.2 in absolutely everything.
FuTz wrote on 5/6/2004, 5:49 AM

I followed Spot's advice when I asked the same question last November and finally bought a VAIO FRV35 P4 2.6 instead of a Centrino.
So far, it fLiEs with Vegas... lot better than my "home machine" in fact (but it's an Athlon 1K based computer with the worst mobo ever created in terms of sound (VIA KT-133 chip...)).

But on the "issues" side: battery ... it's a bit expensive to buy another one, more if you consider it will give you just another +or- 1 hour time of operation.
And if you go with a "jobber" battery, you lose your warranty.

Baaad, but I was more looking for a "mobile workstation" than a "DVD player for the plane".