Argh! Menus!

plyall wrote on 4/4/2004, 12:46 PM
Folks -

I have burned most of my weekend trying to get a Laserdisc I had of Dire Straits (On The Night - 1993) converted to DVD. I captured the video/audio by plugging my Laserdisc player (Pioneer Elite) into my Sony TRV-33 video camera, and capturing in Vegas using the firewire capture. So far so good.

I trimmed off the lead in, laserdisc screens (flipping heads, etc.), and got the video where I liked it.

I then inserted markers for where each of the songs started, and labeled them. Finally I rendered the footage to Mpeg2 and AC3 (stereo) streams.

I started a new project in DVDA and selected a theme. I dragged the video into the main screen, and got a menu icon. I called it 'Play Movie'. Then I inserted a Scene Selection Menu. It created the necessary number of scene selection screens (3 in this case), I did a bit of tweaking of the layout of each screen, and then used the DVDA preview function to check my work.

It looks fine in DVDA !

The play movie function does just that.

If I use the scene selection menus, they jump to the appropriate song. Life is good (so far).

I then select Make DVD and do a prepare and burn. This takes a little over an hour (I'm using DVD-RW as media - I have learned my lesson making DVD coasters in the past). So I kill an almost 90 minutes letting it burn.

I take the finished product to my Pioneer 563A to see how it came out.

The menu comes up, and I select Play Movie (the first icon) - the DVD goes into STOP mode. Hmmm.

I hit MENU on the DVD renote and get the main menu back. Okay - now I try SCENE SELECTION. The appropriate menus come up.

If I select the first scene from the first scene selection menu (content should be the setting up of the concert), the player again goes into STOP mode.

I hit menu on the remote again, and go into the scene selection menu. This time I select the second scene (content is the start of the first actual song - Calling Elvis) - this appears to work!

I repeat the procedure for the 3rd scene - Walk of Life - and this appears to work. Yay - maybe we're getting somewhere.

Then I select 4th scene - it works as well - the beginning of Heavy Fuel.

Now things go to hell. Whn I select the 5th scene (should be Romeo and Juliet), I get the concert setup footage (which should have been scene 1)! Other subsequent scene selections also end up other places, including some of the earlier songs.

At this point I have diddled with things and done 4 separate burns (thanks to experience, using RW media). All have been similarly hosed.

I don't get it - the preview works fine in DVDA - is this a bug (God - I hope not!), or am I just screwed up procedurally.

If some kind soul could help me understand how to take a video/audio render with embedded markers and turn it into a simple DVD with options for:

a) Play movie from start
b) Select any song

I would be VERY greatful. My patience is running out on what I thought would be a simple project.

HELP!

Pete Lyall

Comments

PeterWright wrote on 4/4/2004, 5:50 PM
You may be doing nothing wrong - it could be a problem with your DVD Player reading the DVD-RW. I've experienced this with some brands of media.

Have you tried playing the disc on your computer? If it works ok, then go ahead and burn a DVD-R to test out on the set top player.
plyall wrote on 4/4/2004, 9:07 PM
Peter -

You da man! Here's a copy of the post I just left on the Vegas forum:


Folks -

I may have found the culprit! Courtesy of a response on the DVDA board, I tried playing the DVD-RW in the computer - worked fine.

I then did a copy of the DVD-RW to a DVD+R (4x) and it seemed to work fine (except that the DVD-RW had a couple of smudges and got a read error near the end of the copy). I did a repair/finalize on the DVD+R and stuck it in my Pioneer 563-A player and the chapter searches and the play seemed to work fine!

I wonder what the screw up is with the Pioneer 563A and DVD-RW proof copies?

In any case - thanks!
PeterWright wrote on 4/5/2004, 2:08 AM
Great to have helped.

I'm interested in why you're using +R as a first choice.

I've recently had a few clients whose set top players wouldn't play -R but worked ok with +R.

But -R is still spoken about as the most compatible format - what's your experience?
cosmo wrote on 4/5/2004, 2:09 PM
I can tell you that I'm hearing the same thing lately about -R discs being the standard. I haven't had any luck with -R discs but every +R disc has played fine everywhere I take them. Strange. Could be media, could be drive, could be anything. It's soooo relative.