Argument for Rewire Support

druid wrote on 4/14/2004, 12:19 PM
I love vegas for audio tracking and editing. I don't do video though I have no problem with vegas being an audio and video app (Nuendo, highly respected, also does both) I have used vegas since it's first inception when it was embraced by the audio community more than the video community. I agree that it should not take on midi and VST since it's simplicity is what makes it so great. I have tried using Sonar and Logic for tracking and editing and couldn't believe how much better vegas was. There is still a problem though as I like to use midi and virtual instruments. I definately don't think vegas should do midi or VSTis since this is what makes Sonar, Cubase, Logic, etc so cumbersome and they tend to collapse under their own weight. I believe rednroll compared it to something like a swiss army knife to do surgery. I see a solution being adding Rewire capability to Vegas since this would let people who want to do looping, midi and VSTi stuff use another program for that and still use vegas for audio. Anybody with me on this?

Comments

Rednroll wrote on 4/14/2004, 1:16 PM
I agree with you 100% on all your points. Rewire was one of my requests for the Vegas 5 features post for exactly the same reasons you described. Although currently you can achieve similar functionality through midi beat clock sync, just no audio patching ability. I think rewire is a great solution of the old argument of users that prefer the uber app, and others that prefer the specilized individual app scenario.
Newf wrote on 4/15/2004, 5:03 AM
I use an M-Audio f410 card to flawlessly route 7/8 output to 1/2 in aswell as two analog or digital out to digital in to gain 4 channels in total of "Rewire" with Vegas 2.0h. Others with cards featuring more ins and outs may be able to achieve more impressive results. The question is whether noise is introduced during the analog conversions however my ears hear different. Reason tweaked internally produces brilliant and impressive presence on Vegas tracks without the need for plugin effects. This may not work with Vegas 4 running on asio drivers. While I enjoy using Vegas and Reason this way for staight multitracking it also brings up the consideration of using the two programs (with post record edit dialog window deactivated in Vegas) for live performance. Imagine VegasLive without taking it in the neck. Can others check assertions please and remember in your soundcard mixing software to select your matrix as to avoid feedback. Hope It workes for you.
Nat wrote on 4/15/2004, 10:44 AM
With cards made by ESI (and probably other companies also) you can internally (and digitally) route audio from an output to an input, in betwen different driver schemas. So you can route reason in ASIO to vegas in MME and such things.
Personaly I always try to get cards that feature internal routing.
cosmo wrote on 4/15/2004, 12:47 PM
I don't think it's difficult to route the audio appropriately, what I like about Rewire is that it gets in SYNC. I see Red has a MIDI clock sync scenario...would anyone like to enlighten me on how that works? Can you have a clock track like on an analog tape deck to serve as master to the Reason slave? That sounds interesting enough...but all in all, still no where near as simple and functional as rewire.
stakeoutstudios wrote on 4/15/2004, 1:40 PM
If re-wire or the uber-app doesn't appear there will be many many disappointed people! I will be one of them.

This has been the most requested and discussed feature of all, neglecting this kind of integration is not a good plan!

Jason
cosmo wrote on 4/15/2004, 5:53 PM
Don't expect it in V5 man cause you'll be dissapointed!