Aspect different in Pan / Crop than Project

Former user wrote on 7/15/2010, 1:30 PM
Using Vegas 8.1...

I opened a clip Event Pan/Crop today to add a simple mask and found that the clip workspace is in a different aspect ratio than the main project (HDV 1080-60i (1440x1080, 29.970 fps).

So the image is narrower than the actual timeline. But, I still have to create the mask as if the video is filling up the display, which is just about impossible.

Has anyone else seen this?

Jim

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xberk wrote on 7/15/2010, 1:44 PM
If I understand you correctly, select the event that has the diff aspect ratio. Open pan/crop -- right click in the image area of pan/crop --- choose "match aspect output" .. this will crop the image to your project properties output aspect ratio.

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Former user wrote on 7/15/2010, 2:16 PM
The project is already set to the same size / frame rate / aspect ratio as the all of the video clips, so clicking either the match output or match source doesn't change anything -- the clip already matches both.

Here's a link to a screen grab that shows what I'm seeing. The timeline preview window shows that the clip and project are matched. But the pan / crop window has the video horizontally squished.

Thanks.

Jim
farss wrote on 7/15/2010, 2:23 PM
Looking at your screen grab the problem isn't the Screen Aspect Ratio it is the Pixel Aspect Ratio. Try right clicking the media and checking what the pixel aspect is and change it if needed. That may cure the problem.
Sorry to be a little vague as I've never seen your specific problem.

Bob.
Former user wrote on 7/15/2010, 3:31 PM
Both the clip and project aspect is 1.3333 (HD).

In fact, I used the "Match Media Settings" feature in Project Properties when I created the project...

This looks like a bug to me.

Jim

xberk wrote on 7/15/2010, 3:35 PM
That is weird. Have never seen it. Seems like the preview window looks normal but the pan/crop is squeezed. -- Is this the only media clip having a problem? As Bob suggested, it does look like the Pixel aspect ratio is wrong (but why would preview look right?) --- You can adjust the Pixel aspect ratio for just that event (use the event properties)..
Can you do a lossless render on the clip to cure the problem?

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farss wrote on 7/15/2010, 4:05 PM
Assuming the same problem occurs with other clips from the same camera / source then I'd have to agree, it is a bug.

Why not download the trial of 9.1 and see if the problem goes away?

There seems to be a special on at the moment of 20% off everything including upgrades, you might have just found two good reasons to upgrade.

Bob.
musicvid10 wrote on 7/15/2010, 4:51 PM
This was the subject of a discussion a couple of weeks ago. Apparently, it is a known bug that affects 8.1 (only). So 8.0c and 9.0x don't have it. A forum search doesn't reveal any workarounds.

Former user wrote on 7/15/2010, 7:10 PM
Yep. I had discovered that if I open the same project in 8.0c the Pan / Crop works as expected. I will just create the mask using 8.0c then load it back into 8.1 (which handles the HD content MUCH better)

Thanks.

Jim