Athlon 64 Processor

PH125 wrote on 1/4/2004, 12:41 PM
Hey all,

I just bought an HP a450e Pavilion PC. I got it with an AMD Athlon 64 (64 Bit) 3200+ processor, 1 Gig of PC3200 RAM, and a 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 graphics card. I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with Vegas 4 on this PC or one with similar configurations. This is because I have been hearing from certain sites that the AMD Athlon64 3200+ is inferior to the p4 3.2 Ghz HT as far as media goes, but the tech guy at the computer store told me they were equivilent to each other. What's the truth?

Comments

TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/4/2004, 1:33 PM
The 32bit side is slower in some things. But, remember that the p4 IS NOT 64-bit. It wil NOT run ANY 64-bit stuff. So, if Vegas 5 is released as a 32 & 64 bit version, your computer will outperform the P4 for months while Intel catches up.

Plus, there isn't really and 64bit tests yet, so you can only compare them on 32-bit operations.

For a comperasion, you could compare the Intel 64-bit CPU with the AMD 64/32 bit CPU. Just try to run 32-bit stuff on the intel chip. :)

So, you can't
Ohm wrote on 1/4/2004, 2:01 PM
If this helps, I use HP 360n with AMD, and ATI 8500DV and have never had any issues concerning VV4, or Photoshop.

Most of the electronics engineers where I work chose PCs running AMD over Intell. When I bought my PC about two years ago, the biggest difference to me was $800.00.

True, there are differences, but unless you actually run two machines side by side, performing the same tasks, you won't notice.

farss wrote on 1/4/2004, 2:08 PM
uStuff are working on an OS for the AMD, until that comes out and code optimised for it you're not going to see any speed up.
Going from 32 to 64 bit can be a nightmare for all concerned particularly if yu want backwards compatibility.

A much better idea in my opinion, start again, new OS, new hardware, new app code.

Even Bill has said the same thing, both the hardware and the software is being held back by the need for backwards compatibility.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/4/2004, 6:24 PM
Isn't it amazing? Intel has held us back for so long! :)

I've read that under Windows XP 64-bit the 32-bit apps work as good on an equivilent AMD XP chip. Don't know first hand. Hope to soon, but not yet.

I know some linux versions support the AMD-64. Don't know if any apps do though.
bakerbud9 wrote on 1/4/2004, 7:15 PM
I think if SOFO adds native support in Vegas to take advantage of the SSE2 registers available on the AMD 64 arichitecture (there are SIXTEEN of them), we'll see HUGE performance improvements.

Unfortunately, I can't speak to the 32-bit emulation. But as HappyFriar says, good luck running 32-bit stuff on an Itanium. Intel does not have any 64-bit processor that has 32-bit compatibility.

I must confess, though, that I have a personal bias towards AMD over Intel. My impression is that the AMD chips, in general, are more well-designed. The fact that you get similar performance on AMD at slower clock speeds (and cooler temps) than Intel is my reason for feeling this way.

Sincerely,

Nate