seems obvious but make sure auto crossfade is off.
did you check that?

Yes, that was off. The event on the left gets trimmed instead of the event on the right when you do the nudge, which is opposite if you were trying to edit 2 pieces of music together.

let me try doing what your yalking about and see what i get.

So, I guess I'm the only one who's ever run into this problem? Am I the only one here that edits music this way? No one's done any radio commercial production, where you have to edit a 4 minute song down to 60 seconds? Can we do something in Version 3.0 to overcome this editing limitation.....just for me?

Hey Brian -
I know what you are saying, I guess I just never edit without the autocrossfade turned on. I would just slip edit or drag onto the lefthand event, create a crossfade and then just drag back the edge of the fade until it's a butt-splice. I'd be curious to know exactly what you're doing 'cause maybe I could suggest a speedier way.

also, I just got back on email and internet so I never got a chance to follow up on my punch in post but I wanted to comment on your posts and will do so soon. I think there's some punching functionality you might not be taking advantage of.

c.

Thanks for getting back to me Charles. What I'm doing is the usual stuff for radio commercials, turning a 3 minute piece of music into a 60 second edit with the stinger on the end. Usually when I goto put the ending back on the song (ie the event on the right) I just like to have vegas loop at the edit point and then nudge the right event over until the beat matches up. I would like it to trim the event on right instead of the one on the left when I'm doing the nudging (ie #4 key while vegas loops). I usually do it this same way, and have it trim the event on the left and then once the beat matches up, I then slide the edit point over so the length on the event to the left is back to where it originally was when I started the edit. It's just a backwards way of editing for me, and I would like the option to have it trim the event on the right instead.

I would appreciate seeing a good response on the need for punch-in also, I had everyone screaming at me that their way of working was better than mine and they have to have that function, but no one ever gave me a good explaination "why" although I gave them a good explanation "why not". So I guess I'm just suppose to agree with them?

Brian -
I do a lot of the same kind of work - editing a 3 minute song to fit under a tag, where I want the end of the tag to meet with the end of the piece while the beginning starts with it. But I guess I don't see why you are creating a split point where you think a good edit might work and then use the alt-slip method to get the audio in the right-hand event to slide to the left (essentially as though it were sliding underneath, except you're really just changing the position of the media within that new event). Then you can slip it all the way to the end of the piece, find a corresponding beat or measure to cut into and then slip edit the crossfade until it sounds pefect. I find this flawless and incredibly fast.

let me know if any of this does not make sense.

Well, this sounds like what I'm trying to accomplish, what's the "Alt-slip" method that you're talking about?

oh man, you missing out on one of the best editing features in Vegas!! Left click on the event and drag to the left or right while holding alt. It will move the media within the event without changing the borders of the event itself.

On a crossfade - left click and drag on the crossfade while holding ctrl and alt and it will shift the crossfade to the left or right uncovering or covering either side of the media making editing of songs incredibly easy. Say it doesn't sound good to edit on the down beat, just move the crossfade over to the next beat of the previous beat. It's so cool. I can't believe you haven't been using this. Check the manual for more features like this...

or call me or email if you want more explanation.
check my punch in response for the other info

Thanks Charles!!!! This was exactly the kind of feature I was looking for. You da man!!! I haven't read the manual since the release of 2.0b, but I must have misunderstood this feature, because these are the things I've always hoped Vegas would be able to do. Damn, I feel like I have a new update to play around with now.
Thanks again,
Brian Franz

P.S., I just wish it would work the same way, if I held the alt key and then used "num lock" #4 key to edge it over. I feel I can get more accurate edits using the number keys to move the event than dragging it with the mouse. Oh well, I can deal with the mousing thing!!!

you can also use the arrow keys-