Vegas already has the plugins for delay built in. Look in your Audio plugins menu. (Tools/Audio/insert assignable FX)

To remove a voice from music is very hard, virtually impossible unless the voice is dead center, even then, it's quite challenging to lose the music and keep only the voice, and you'll never completely get rid of the voice.
http://www.dw.com.au/cdlooper/decomposer/ somewhat works. You could also use the features of Sound Forge to work towards removing music and leaving only voice, I've never done this. I've only gone the other way, removing voice from music.

I'm not familiar with the "contender speech", so this might be a mute point, but I"m familiar with the movie "The contender". So, another way to try and do this is to just record the center channel when playing back a 5.1 mix if you've got a surround system available that can decode the Dolby Digital 5.1 surround mix. More times than not the Voice is routed to the center channel, while the music is routed to the side channels. You may get lucky depending on how it was mixed and find the Voice by itself in the Center channel.

Thanx to both of you. Rednroll, its the brando speech from "On the waterfront". Anyway to my regret DSE it seems i have only these plug ins built: dither, pan, track compressor, track eq, track noise gate, volume, wave hammer surround. there is no delay plugin. is there a free decomposer such as the cdloopper which i can download? What about a free plugin for echo, can you recomend one and where i can find it?

Rednroll, you see im not that advanced but am learning fast do you think you can explain to a "dummy" how to go about doing that in vegas?

thanx

Look and see if your home surround sound processor has a "Pre-amp" out for the individual channels. If it does then you will need to connect a wire from that output to an input on your sound card. Then record that signal into Vegas by arming an audio track and selecting your sound cards input that you have the audio signal plugged into. Or if you just have speaker outs, you would need to make a chord from the center channel speaker output of your surround processor and connect that to the input of your sound card. You'll need to adjust the Volume control on your surround system to set the proper recording level going into your sound card.

Another thing you can try, is if you already have the recording in Vegas and it's a Stereo track. Try converting the track to MONO by right clicking on it, then selecting CHANNELS>COMBINE. This may give you the extra boost of the voice to further reduce the music away from the level of the voice. Then put an EQ on that track and try reducing everything below 400Hz. This will only work if the file is a true STEREO file. Basically what's happening is if it's a true stereo file, this means the Voice is probably panned dead center in the mix and the music is panned left and right. For something like the voice which is panned dead center, this means the voice sound is the same in the Left audio channel as it is in the Right audio channel. Therefore when you COMBINE the two channels into Mono, you add the common signal together( ie the voice) and get up to a +6dB increase of the voice, while the things that aren't common in the Left and right channels (ie the music) remains at the same level. Then by adding the EQ and reducing everything below 400Hz, you are lowering the frequencies that the music has more presence in and the voice has very little frequencies in. You may want to play around with that 400Hz frequency setting in the EQ if this effects the voice too much, by lowering it in 50Hz steps to see what sounds best.

I'm not sure if that's "dummy" enough, but I can further explain if you have anymore questions.

Rednroll I appreciate your help.ill give it a shot now (2nd way) and let you know how it went

regards

Rednroll, Its a no go..its not in stereo and the COMBINE will not even show. I was lowering the levels below 400Hz but it doesn make a difference, probably since its not in stereo. any other ideas? by the way how can i create an echo sound on the audio track

To create a delay:
1. Insert a Bus. (Insert/Audio Bus)
2. In the Audio Bus, click the FX button. The Plug In Chooser opens. In the Sony Folder, find the Delay. Double Click it.
3. On the audio track you want to be affected by the delay, right click the Track Header and in the sub menu, choose Insert/Remove Envelope and then choose the Bus. It's likely Bus A.
4. Now you'll see a purple or blue line in the middle of your audio. This is like a volume control that sends your audio to the echo/delay. Double click the line to create handles, or points that you can raise or lower the send to the delay.
5. Play back the file, and decide how much delay you want. In the Delay dialog, you can control the volume of Delay out and Dry out separately. Dry is the audio with no delay, Delay out is the audio that is delayed. These are like balance controls between delay and non-delayed audio.

"Rednroll, Its a no go..its not in stereo and the COMBINE will not even show. I was lowering the levels below 400Hz but it doesn make a difference, probably since its not in stereo. "

If the COMBINE option doesn't show, that's because you are working with a MONO sound file and it will be a no go for my suggestion as you found out.

The 400Hz roll-off EQ doesn't matter if it's Stereo or Mono sound file, this part of my suggestion should work on both, but it depends on the sound and how the music is mixed with the voice. The voice is most present between 400Hz to 7Khz, so reducing frequencies outside of this range using an EQ should reduce some of the music that will range in the frequencies of 20Hz to 20Khz. This won't be ideal and should only help reduce the music and minimally effect the voice at the same time. So that's the more indebt explaination of my suggestion was to reduce the frequencies outside of the voice frequencies. So you could try a 2 step approach like this.

1. Inset the Sony Track EQ
2. Select Band #1 and choose "Low Shelf" (that's the default)
3. Set the Frequency to "400Hz"
4. set the roll-off to "24"
5. Set the Gain to "-inf"
6. Select Band #4 and choose "High shelf" (again the default setting)
7. Set Frequency to 7000 Hz
8. Set roll-off to "24"
9. Set the Gain to "-inf"

Now in both bands #1 and #4 you need to change the frequencies so it minimizes the effect it has on the voice. So in band#1 if the voice sounds too thin to you, then lower this frequency below 400Hz. If it sounds OK to you at 400Hz, then you might consider raising the frequency above 400Hz. For Band#4 if the voice sounds too dull, you need to raise that frequency above 7000Hz, if it sounds ok then try reducing that frequency to elliminate more of the music. The more you lower band #4 the thinner the voice will start to sound. So just play around with those two frequency adjustments until you find a happy medium that may get you by. Again, it won't completely remove the music, but it's probably the best you can do to get less of it.

"any other ideas?"
Nope

"by the way how can i create an echo sound on the audio track"

When you say "Echo", can you better describe what you mean by this? Are you trying to make a particular "word" or section of the audio Echo? Or are you trying to add more like a "Reverb" effect where the voice sounds like it's in an auditorium? Depending on which you want there are some simpler techniques to use than DSE outlined, but his advice will work too.

thanks DSE but it seems i have only these plug ins built: dither, pan, track compressor, track eq, track noise gate, volume, wave hammer surround. there is no delay plugin. i have some cyberlink plugins but none of them work a message pops up saying plugin cant be run, components are missing. i dont know...

Rednroll, Im trying to make a particular word echo, exactly...just a part of the track. is this possible since i do not have the required delay plugin? thanx

Well there is a way to do it, but before I go into all those steps, I think it's best we find out where your delay is, because this will be the preferred method. You SHOULD have a delay that gets installed with Vegas. If not, I would suggest a reinstall. Do this to find out if you have a delay.
1. Click on the audio track insert button
2.Click on the "plugin chain" button
3. Click on the "Sony" folder
4. Look for the plugin "Simple Delay" or "Multi-tap Delay". Both of these will work but I prefer to tell you how to use the "Simple Delay"....because it's "simple" :-)

Rednroll,
no delay plugin of any kind just dither, pan, track compressor, track eq, track noise gate, volume, wave hammer surround. Reinstalling sounds like its going to create a mess :) what happens with all the work, all those dv captures, files etc...i dont think I would want to go there...do you think that you can send me the delay plugin, perhaps through yousendit.com?

Well, it won't destroy anything reinstalling Vegas, but let's try finding the plugins and reregistering them in Vegas instead if you don't feel comfortable doing that.

1. Goto Windows Start>Search>For Files and Folders>all files and folders
2. Type in the find field "sfxpfx*.dll"
It should show three DLL files, sfxpfx1.dll, sfxpfx2.dll, and sfxpfx3.dll

Have Vegas open as well as the Search results. Now drag and drop each of those DLL files into Vegas. This will reregister those plugins, which I believe the delays plugins are in one of those DLL files.

Oops one correction, the sfxpfx, that I mentioned are the Sony EXPRESS plugins. It's ok though, to do the above steps since you're missing those too. In addition do a search on "sfppack*.dll" and you should find 3 more DLL files. Again drag and drop each of these into Vegas to register them.

I couldnt find sfxpfx*.dll. I found the sfppack*.dll 3 files, they are already in the plug in folder, I guess they are the ones I mentioned above. thanx for youre help Red, i will catch some zzz's now since its 5am where i live. thanks again, take care

"they are already in the plug in folder"
The problem is that they may be in the plugin folder on your hard drive, but something may have gone wrong in your Windows registry, and Vegas doesn't know where to look so they appear when you go into the plugin chainer selection window. You can drop these DLL files anywhere into the Vegas Window, and Vegas will Register them for you and enter the correct Registry information for you, so they will appear in the plugin chainer. The fact that they're on your system is a good thing, and we're one step closer to getting them to appear in Vegas as a plugin.

youre the man Red, I got it, dragged it to the timeline, registered it, now i got all the sony plugs...im going to experiment with the delays now. Thanx for the help

regards

Once you'red done experimenting around with it and find some other complicated method of creating your echo FX, try these steps out.

1.Have your original Voice on Track#1
2. Insert a new audio track directly below Track#1, we'll refer to this as track#2
3. In Track#1 locate your cursor to the word you wany to Echo.
4. Put a split by hitting the S key at the beginning of the word
5. Locate your cursor to the end of the word, and hit S
-At this point you should have a seperate event for the "word" you want to Echo.
6. Select that word event, and press the numeric #2 key (make sure NomLock is enabled). This will drop that word onto Track#2
7. You may want to solo track#2 and make sure the single word edit you did sounds ok, so that you didn't cut any of the word off, or that you didn't get any of the unintended words. If you make an edit here on the event on Track#2, you should also edit Track #1 so when you play back both tracks it shouldn't sound like you made an edit at all (as long as the track faders are at the same level).
7. Goto Track#2 Track insert
8. Click on the audio track insert button
9.Click on the "plugin chain" button
10. Click on the "Sony" folder
11. Add the plugin "Simple Delay"

-Simple Delay settings
Set the Dry Out to 0dB
Set the Delay out to -6dB
Enable Multiple Delays (Feedback)
Now you want to adjust the Delay Time and the Decay Time to get the Echo you want to achieve.

Delay Time- This value puts the spacing between the Echos, so if they're repeating too fast ,thus the echos are too close together you increase the Delay Time. Start with a .7second value here.
Decay Time-This Value determines how long the Echo will last. So if you want it to echo for a longer duration then increase the time here.

Now with this setup, anytime let's say you want to Echo maybe another word, all you have to do is edit that word out of Track#1 and drop it on Track#2 and that word will echo and you don't need to putz around with anything else.