Aut scene separation - Cineform Intermediates

Wolfgang S. wrote on 5/19/2005, 12:54 PM
Recently, I have mentioned here that we have found now a workflow, where we are able to run a automatic scene selection for some of the proxys, generated by Gearshift (so, DV-avi or mjpeg-avi material). That works fine, and is based on AV-cutty.

Download here:

http://www.avcutty.de/english/index.htm

We have performed now some tests with the Cineform Intermediates directly (HDV 1080-50i). It works also fine for HDV 1080-60i.

Together with the developer of AV-Cutty, we have been able to modify AV-Cutty, and a first automatic scene separation has been successful, based on 1080-50i.

Is there an interest to use AV-Cutty for such a purpose? Feedback please!

Please be aware that the download version does not include that modification at the moment!

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Comments

MH_Stevens wrote on 5/19/2005, 8:00 PM
Does this make clean brakes in the video rather than leaving incorrect trailing and leading frames resulting from the GOP? This was my problem when I experimented with cutting. It needs remove a whole GOP secetion at the cross-over.

Mike
Wolfgang S. wrote on 5/20/2005, 12:32 AM
To my opinion, GOPs are available in nativ m2t material only - but not in Cineform Intermediates. That is a VfW avi codec, where you have no GOPs at all - but only compression within the frames. So, editing of Cineform should not be limited to any GOP structure. In my tests the scene detection worked fine - no issue from that side, even if I have to confirm that my test possiblilities are limited to the m2t materil from VASST.

But more: with the test m2t material from VASST, I also had no issue to make a hard cut in the video material, even not with Vegas-5. Vegas is able to handle mpegs too.

There is now a download Version of AV-Cutty available, where you can test that by yourself. Cineform Intermediates seems to work fine with that verison 2.4a, please test it yourself too.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems