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thextreme1 wrote on 11/4/2002, 2:49 AM
I use AVI with the Divx codec and it is as good as DVD quality and maybe better.
Try it, you wont be disappointed. Just make sure you render in the best quality.
statas wrote on 11/4/2002, 4:40 AM
how exactly do you use the divx codec? i only have a general understanding of divx and codecs.
taliesin wrote on 11/4/2002, 5:28 AM
Why rendering to import into another timeline (if this other timeline is a VegasVideo one). Simply open two VV-projects and copy&paste the clip(s).

Before using DivX - just render to the SonicFoundry-AVI-DV. Best qualitity available - you won't see any loss.

Marco
statas wrote on 11/4/2002, 6:15 AM
i'm rendering to avi because the timeline has a substantial number of individual clips and fades (several hundred) and i can manipulate the piece much easier as one whole clip, rather than a complex veg. also vegas seems to work much faster with a few simple avi files, rather than hundreds and hundreds of short clips. i'm piecing together several video art pieces into one long timeline. is this a good solution?
taliesin wrote on 11/4/2002, 6:28 AM
I see. So I think the way you're going is a good way.
Then even more: Don't use any different codec than the SonicFoundryDV-codec for AVI-rendering!

Marco
wcoxe1 wrote on 11/4/2002, 4:47 PM
Agreed, the SoFo Vegas codec is about as good as it gets, much better than Microsoft's and any DVD or MPG processor.l
Chienworks wrote on 11/4/2002, 7:25 PM
Also keep in mind that if you have finished a segment and render it to DV .avi (any codec, doesn't matter which), then bring this rendered file into the timeline and make no additional changes, it will not be re-rendered! It will merely be copied to the new output file, so effectively you can use this file through infinite generations with no loss.
statas wrote on 11/5/2002, 3:00 AM
so if i bring the avi into the timeline and alter it further, vegas will re-render it? exactly how much loss will this create?
taliesin wrote on 11/5/2002, 4:34 AM
>> exactly how much loss will this create?

I made a critical test with 10 render-generation. There was NO visible loss!

SoFo says: no visible loss up to the 50th generation.


Marco
jetdv wrote on 11/5/2002, 9:42 AM
I do this all of the time. Work on a segment, render to NTSC DV avi. Work on the next segment, render to avi... When all the segments are done, start a "final" project and import all of the rendered segments. These segments will NOT be re-rendered except for where I overlap them. Rest easy, you are NOT losing quality this way.
statas wrote on 11/10/2002, 11:32 AM
concerning file size, does bringing these rendered avis into a new timeline affect re-rendered file size? for example, if i render several 2 minute vegs into seperate avis and bring them into a new timeline 5 - 10 times each, but only using different 20 second segments of 2 minute files, will vegas render the entire 2 minute pieces again and again, or just the 20 second segments visable on the timeline?

for that matter, the question holds true for any clip brought into a timeline. if i only use 5 seconds of a 45 second clip, does vegas render it with the size of 5 seconds or the size of 45 seconds?
Chienworks wrote on 11/10/2002, 2:50 PM
Vegas only renders the part that is used on the timeline. For that matter, if the file you bring in is DV .avi and you're rendering to DV .avi, then any sections that are unediting or unmodified won't have to be rendered at all; they'll just be copied straight to the output file nearly instantly.
statas wrote on 11/10/2002, 7:38 PM
do the pre-rendering files need to be kept in order to save the avi quality? what does vegas do if the pre-rendering files are trashed?
Chienworks wrote on 11/10/2002, 10:31 PM
The prerenedered files are not part of the finished .avi file. They will have no effect on the finished file whether they are retained or deleted.