Avid DNxHD codec for Sony Vegas Pro 13 is not for

FotoVideo wrote on 4/17/2015, 8:31 AM

Hello,

I Atomos Recorder Ninija 2. I record movies Avid DNxHD codec. Sony Vegas Pro 13 does not want to read movies.

If you install the Avid DNxHD codec http://www.avid.com/us/request-info/dnxhd

But the contract says that it is not a codec for commercial use. You need to buy some licenses:

18.1. MPEG-2. MPEG-2 technology apr be included with the software. MPEG LA, L.L.C. ImageSlideShow requires this notice:
ANY USE OF THIS PRODUCT OTHER THAN CONSUMER PERSONAL USE IN ANY MANNER THAT COMPLIES WITH THE MPEG-2 STANDARD FOR ENCODING VIDEO INFORMATION FOR PACKAGED MEDIA IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED WITHOUT A LICENSE UNDER APPLICABLE PATENTS IN THE MPEG-2 PATENT PORTFOLIO, WHICH LICENSE IS AVAILABLE FROM MPEG LA, LLC, 250 STEELE STREET, SUITE 300, DENVER, COLORADO 80206.
18.2. MPEG-4. MPEG-4 technology apr be included with the software. MPEG LA, L.L.C. ImageSlideShow requires this notice:
THIS PRODUCT IS Licensed UNDER THE MPEG-4 VISUAL PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSE FOR THE PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE OF A CONSUMER FOR (i) ENCODING VIDEO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MPEG-4 VISUAL STANDARD ("MPEG-4 VIDEO") AND / OR (ii) DECODING MPEG-4 VIDEO THAT WAS BY A CONSUMER encoded ENGAGED IN A PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND / OR WAS FROM A VIDEO Obtained Licensed PROVIDER BY MPEG LA TO PROVIDE MPEG-4 VIDEO. NO LICENSE IS GRANTED OR SHALL BE FOR ANY OTHER implied USE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION INCLUDING THAT RELATING TO PROMOTIONAL, INTERNAL AND COMMERCIAL USES AND LICENSING MAY BE Obtained FROM MPEG LA, LLC. SEE HTTP://WWW.MPEGLA.COM. THIS PRODUCT IS Licensed UNDER THE MPEG-4 SYSTEMS PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSE FOR ENCODING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MPEG-4 SYSTEMS STANDARD, EXCEPT THAT AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT OF LICENSE AND ARE NECESSARY FOR royalties ENCODING IN CONNECTION WITH (i) DATA STORED IN PHYSICAL OR REPLICATED MEDIA WHICH IS PAID FOR ON A TITLE BY TITLE BASIS AND / OR (ii) DATE WHICH IS PAID FOR ON A TITLE BY TITLE BASIS AND IS TRANSMITTED TO AN END USER FOR PERMANENT STORAGE AND / OR USE, SUCH ADDITIONAL LICENSE MAY BE FROM Obtained MPEG LA, LLC. SEE HTTP://WWW.MPEGLA.COM FOR ADDITIONAL DETAILS.
18.3. H.264 / AVC. H.264 / AVC technology be included small with the software. MPEG LA, L.L.C. ImageSlideShow requires this notice:
THIS PRODUCT IS UNDER THE AVC Licensed PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSE FOR THE PERSONAL USE OF A CONSUMER OR OTHER USES IN WHICH IT DOES NOT RECEIVE Remuneration TO (i) ENCODE VIDEO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AVC STANDARD ("AVC VIDEO") AND / OR (ii ) DECODE AVC VIDEO THAT WAS BY A CONSUMER encoded ENGAGED IN A PERSONAL ACTIVITY AND / OR WAS FROM A VIDEO Obtained PROVIDER TO PROVIDE AVC Licensed VIDEO. NO LICENSE IS GRANTED OR SHALL BE FOR ANY OTHER implied USE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MAY BE Obtained FROM MPEG LA, LLC SEE <HTTP://WWW.MPEGLA.COM>.

I understand that additional Avid DNxHD codec codecs are not free ???

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 4/17/2015, 10:00 AM

Avid makes two codec packs available - one thru distribution of its pro partners - and that might include Atomos as well as many other suppliers....

The second one is a free public codec pack which is dubbed "LE" and that is a subset of their larger pro codec pack. Only the codecs found in LE can be freely used in VegasPro.

musicvid10 wrote on 4/17/2015, 10:26 AM

Does your Atmos record DNxHD to MXF or MOV format?

FotoVideo wrote on 4/17/2015, 11:23 AM

Hello,

Atomos is a licensee of codecs http://www.avid.com/US/resources/dnxhd-codec-licensees

Sony Vegas Pro 13 is not on the list. There is a licensee of Avid DNxHD codec

How do I edit video Avid DNxHD for sale Avid DNxHD format?

I'm looking for a free video codec, which will open the Avid DNxHD codec in Sony Vegas Pro 13

Atomos videos are MOV format.

Atomos also record codec Apple Pro Ress but Sony Vegas Pro 13 does not read well codecs in Apple Pro Ress

videoITguy wrote on 4/17/2015, 1:52 PM

Avid is a very serious vendor about what choices it makes. The intent is to license and sell software and codec that will be used appropriately. It is not in the "free" space as a rule.
If your direction is to use VegasPro as an NLE then you must do that with a transcode done by someone for you that VegasPro can handle.

farss wrote on 4/17/2015, 6:50 PM

[I]"But the contract says that it is not a codec for commercial use."[/I]

You misunderstand the meaning of "commercial use"

Atamos etc. embed Avid's IP in the product they sell, they need a licence because that's commercial use. Anyone who makes and sells a DVD player needs an MPEG-1/2 licence, again they make money from the sale of the IP.

None of us need such a licence, we're not selling Avid's IP.
IF SCS want to include Avid's IP within Vegas then yes, they need a licence from Avid to do so.

There are some restrictions on the use of these "open" licences from MPEGLA, from memory of my conversation with MPEGLA you'd need to be running 500,000 concurrent encoders to have to pay a royalty. As of the date of that conversation not even YouTube met that limitation.

Bob.

FotoVideo wrote on 4/18/2015, 2:41 AM

Thank you for your answers.

I'm not interested DVD equipment sales.

Wants to sell the material edited in Avid DNxHD codec or any other codec using the Sony Vegas Pro 13. I really like the Sony Vegas Pro 13, but I wish that they limit the Avid DNxHD codec that only for their own internal use and not for commercial use. I bought Sony Vegas Pro 13 for commercial purposes with a view to selling videos of Atomos Ninja 2 and editing materials

farss wrote on 4/18/2015, 3:38 AM

[I]" I bought Sony Vegas Pro 13 for commercial purposes with a view to selling videos of Atomos Ninja 2 and editing materials."[/I]

Which you can do under the terms of the licence granted to you by Avid and MPEGLA. I appreciate that English might not be your first language and you should know that even for those whom it is the terms of the licence are confusing. It does not in any way restricts you from using Avid's DNxHD codec in the production of content that you will sell.

Bob.

FotoVideo wrote on 4/18/2015, 4:41 AM

Poorly know English but I try to

I could not understand the Avid DNxHD and MPEG.LA codec contract and so I wrote here request.

So I bought Atomos Ninija 2 and Sony Vegas Pro 13, but for commercial purposes. I did not understand why Sony Vegas Pro package 13 is Avid DNxHD codec separately installed only on the part of Avid

farss wrote on 4/18/2015, 4:56 AM

[I]" I did not understand why Sony Vegas Pro package 13 is Avid DNxHD codec separately installed only on the part of Avid "[/I]

Because if SCS or Apple want to include it in their software THEN they (Apple, SCS etc.) have to pay a licence fee to Avid for each copy of their NLE they sell.

Bob.

set wrote on 4/18/2015, 5:00 AM

FotoVideo,

I also bought Ninja 2 as HD Recorder to recording my Live multi camera switching on location, and I don't have any issue with this. Everyone who use Atomos Ninja 2 or Shogun along side their Sony A7s has no problem with this. If this is a problem since the first time, I believe another Sony A7s forums or video articles will Highlight this topic.

So far I can understand AVID's License, in simple words, we are just using this codec to use for our commercial activity on PRODUCING CONTENT WITH IT.
You ARE NOT USING THIS TO MAKE NEW DEVICES or equipment or writing software embedding Avid's DNxHD's technology.

Don't worry about it.

Set

FotoVideo wrote on 4/18/2015, 5:26 AM

Ok. I also have a lot of movies in the Apple ProRes codec. Before I bought the Sony Vegas Pro 13 reads badly codec Apple Pro Ress.

Well-free program converts videos MPEG_Streamclip with Apple Pro Ress Avid DNxHD codec on.

MPEG_Streamclip only problem is there is no license for the Avid DNxHD codec. Do not bother to use it commercially?

farss wrote on 4/18/2015, 6:24 AM

[I]" Do not bother to use it commercially?"[/I]

"commercially" has nothing to do with anything you, I or the rest of the world's editors do, please try to get that word right out of your head, it is completely irrelevant.

Bob.