The simple answer is to choose the Blu-ray elementary video stream with Mpeg2 encoding - this is slightly less efficient encode than AVC - but outstanding quality with good pass thru to DVDAPro.

Look this:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=908132

Musicvid10 - Just wanted confirmation the AVC templates were the right/best ones

VideoITguy - I shall also investigate mpg2 templates

Pawe - not sure what you are pointing at? A post about PS3 playback? I have no issue with this, just wanted to know about bluray.

Cheers all

Vegas 13: Render -> Sony AVC/MVC -> AVCHD, 50000 Double PAL.

Then use TsMuxeR and Mux output to Blu-Ray folder.

After that burn folders to Blu-Ray. You got 1080/50p Blu-Ray Disc. Very best result.

Forget the DVDA. It is not required.

DVD Architect does not want muxed files.
Elementary streams only, please.

"DVD Architect does not want muxed files."

If the audio is AC3 pro, DVDA will be happy with a muxed file. Unfortunately, Vegas creates Blu-ray video with AC3 studio audio, probably for some licence reason.

Never the less, there is no need to mux first with tsMuxer, since DVDA accepts the video and audio as separate files. That is what we normally have to do.

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No, there are a whole bunch of other things that must be exactly right, as well. An example is a file created in DVD Architect. A file muxed in TSMuxer will almost certainly recompress in Architect.

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No, Vegas does not do that. Only Vegas Movie Studio comes without AC3 Pro encoder.

I will re-express myself to see if that helps.

DVDA will accept at least some (perhaps all, but I can't prove that) compliant AVC video that is already muxed with AC3-Pro audio without re-encoding the audio. Two examples that it will accept are
1) the .m2ts file created by DVDA.
2) the AC3 Pro audio rendered from Vegas Pro that has been muxed with the compliant AVC video by a muxer such as tsMuxer. (I just confirmed that.)

If you render the video from Vegas Pro to an AVCHD template, you can include AC3 audio, but only the studio version is available with that template.

If you render to a Blu-ray video stream template, then of course no audio is included.

What is AC3 Studio anyway? My guess is that it is a Sony term to describe standard AC3 (what Sony calls AC3 Pro) that Sony has crippled or flagged so that DVDA will not make a DVD or BD unless the appropriate licences are in place.

TMPGEnc Authoring Works will apparently make a BD without re-encoding the audio when given a file containing AVC and AC3 studio. I haven't confirmed it beyond doubt, but it certainly does not report that it is re-encoding the audio. Such a BD plays on my BD players.

@ pawe

Maybe having a senior moment this end.
How long has 1080/50P been a Blu-ray standard?

Sony do not even provide templates 1280x720 50P/60P which are BD standard formats

It would appear that if your media is 1920x1080P then you should render using 50/60i templates.

"Maybe having a senior moment this end.
How long has 1080/50P been a Blu-ray standard?"

Never, we have to wait.

"It would appear that if your media is 1920x1080P then you should render using 50/60i templates."

My camera is a Panasonic HC-V750 and with this method I can get the best results. I don't know, but it works. Try it. I do not need anymore DVDA.

Although like Pawe I record in 1080 50p, I too was under the impression bluray was limited to 50i or 24p.

Seeing as 50p to 24p is pretty much out for me due do frame rate difficulties, 50i is my go to for bluray.

I can however render to 50p for direct PS3 playback

DVDA will produce 1280x720 50P BD's and such properties can be dialled in when setting the defaults for DVDA.

In my case the problem arises when rendering out the files from the Vegas timeline. There are no standard BD templates.
The templates I modified produce files that DVDA takes time to accept. So far I have trialled Mainconcept MPEG, Mainconcept AVC & Sony AVC.

However; if I render out a ' HQ'.avi, pass this file out to Edius and then render either .m2ts or .m2v+.ac3 files then these files are readily accepted by DVDA.
The burned 1280x720 BD looks good.

Starting from 1280*720 it seems illogical to upscale to 1920*1080 in order to then use an interlaced output.

Pawe

If you "do not need any more DVDA", how do you create your BDs from your 1080/50P video? Can you create menus for scene selection, etc?

@PeterDuke

"If you "do not need any more DVDA", how do you create your BDs from your 1080/50P video? Can you create menus for scene selection, etc?"

As I said earlier:

Use TsMuxeR and Mux output to Blu-Ray folder.

After that burn folders to Blu-Ray, I use NERO Burning ROM. You get 1080/50p Blu-Ray Disc.

I can't create menus or scene selection with this system, but the film is more important.

Thanks.

My main reason for using DVDA is to create menus, and for what I do, menus are most desirable. However, I am just starting to use 1920x1080-50p and don't know of a way to play it with menus, whether on a BD, a hard disk or thumb drive. I hoped that you had found a way. I would rather not reduce the resolution, the frame rate or go to interlaced to comply with the BD spec.

"I am just starting to use 1920x1080-50p and don't know of a way to play it with menus"

I just had a closer look at TMPGEnc Authoring Works and it now has the option to make Progressive AVCHD folder structures. I just tried it and it plays with menus using either Nero Blu-ray Player or Cyberlink PowerDVD 13.

I then tried making an ISO file, using ImgBurn, to play on my network media player. It played the menus but not the movie. That's a twist, we are sometimes able to play the movie but not the menus.

Well I am part way there. I'll keep looking and trying.

@PeterDuke

"Well I am part way there. I'll keep looking and trying."

Have you found a solution to make Menus?

@Pawe

TMPGEnc Authoring Works will make menus for Progressive AVCHD by creating an AVCHD folder structure (similar to a BD folder structure). These can be put on a hard disk or thumb drive and played with some Windows players.

I am still looking for a way to play them on my network media player. (I normally play BD ISO files.)

I do not know a way using DVD Architect.

@diverG:


In my case the problem arises when rendering out the files from the Vegas timeline. There are no standard BD template.

I built a 1280 x720 60p template by modifying an existing 1920 x 1080 24p template, taking care to match the profile, etc., based on details from MediaInfo. Seems to work so far.

Regards,

Kimberly