Best Render Quality

tdsilk wrote on 1/20/2006, 6:39 AM
Hello,

I have vegas 6.0b and would like to know how to achieve the best render quality for DVD. When I look at my video during editing the quality is clear. However, after I render to MPEG2 and create a DVD in dvdarc the quality is not the same. The quality seems to have changed after rendering to DVD in dvdarc. My question is: Is there a way (setting) in dvdarc to get the best quality when making a DVD?

Thanks,
tdsilk

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Sab wrote on 1/20/2006, 7:47 AM
Select the DVD Architect NTSC Video Stream (assuming you want NTSC) template and all should look good. You don't have to change anything in that template to get great results. This is also assuming your source file is excellent, such as DV footage that hasn't been altered.

Mike
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 1/20/2006, 8:24 AM
More details please - what's "changing quality?"

Please define what is happening, makes it much easier to help you that way :)

Dave
tdsilk wrote on 1/20/2006, 9:48 AM
the problem appears to be that the video quality of the DV footage is crystal clear when viewed in vegas during editing, but when written to DVD the quality seems slightly washed or grainy. The video was created w/ a vx2100 dv cam and imported into Vegas 6. I hope this helps.
tdsilk wrote on 1/20/2006, 9:49 AM
Thanks. I will try this.
johnmeyer wrote on 1/20/2006, 11:15 AM
Just to elaborate on what Sab recommended: Do NOT use the "Default" template when encoding MPEG-2 in Vegas. It will create lousy looking video. I wish Sony would get rid of this template or change the defaults.

ALWAYS use one of the "DVD Architect" templates as your starting point. If you use an average bitrate of 6,000,000 or above (you'll find this control if you click on the Custom button in the Render As dialog), you'll get great results, just like Sab said.

Just remember, EVERY time you render, you always have to make sure that "Default" is NOT selected (Vegas seems intent on steering you towards making the wrong choice).

You should be very happy with the results. I've done extensive testing over the years, and in most cases you should see only extremely subtle differences between your original DV footage, and what you see from your DVD.
tdsilk wrote on 1/20/2006, 12:17 PM
Great!!! I had no idea. Thanks for all the help.
tdsilk wrote on 1/23/2006, 11:07 AM
Hello,

I tried using the DVD Arc setting and for some reason I get the same results. The problem is more noticeable in the black areas of the video. Again, when I view the video on the screen at the BEST FULL seting in VEGAS it looks sharp and the dark colors are very vivid. However, once I render using the settings suggested and then create a DVD in DVD Arc the colors (especially noticeable in black color) are slightly washed/cloudy. Another thing I noticed is if I play the rendered MPEG file that was created in Vegas using MEDIA PLAYER the video looks great. My guess is the problem happens in DVD Arc. Are there any special settings that I need to be aware of in DVD Arc?

Thanks,
tdsilk
B.Verlik wrote on 1/23/2006, 12:14 PM
You must be using the DEFAULT setting. DO NOT USE THE DEFAULT SETTING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. From the TEMPLATE section, open the drop down and scroll down until you get to the DVD NTSC template. Once chosen, open the "Custom" button and then go to the video tab. Change Maximum bps to 8,500,000, Average bps change to 7,000,000 and Minimum bps change to 4,000,000. Be sure you use 2-pass VBR. (not sure where setting is in Vegas 6 for that, but should be in one of the video tabs) This should give you high quality mpeg2s that will work for about 85 minutes of video.
Now erase the name DVD NTSC at top and put in your own title and save it for future use (Icon just to the right). Everytime you render an mpeg, you'll have to choose the right template, so naming it a saving it makes it easy.
Do not make the changes in the default setting, use the DVD NTSC as a lot of other settings are already set right there.
1marcus4 wrote on 1/25/2006, 7:40 PM
What are you viewing the finished product on? TV, Plasma, LCD, Monitor? If you are rendering in Vegas and it looks good in WMP, DVD Architect isn't the culprit. Any other details you can share?
tdsilk wrote on 1/26/2006, 12:35 PM
It appears that I found the problem. I turned the brightness up on my monitor and could see some pixelation graininess in the dark areas of the video. I ran the auto-levels effect to get rid of it. It looks much better, but some of the video is too dark. Thanks for all the input.
By the way, I'm displaying to a 19 in color tv.