Best shooting format for Cinema look

xberk wrote on 1/9/2021, 4:57 PM

I'm starting a new project that I want to look cinematic. I'm using a Sony NX30u camera which has the following formats:

PS (28Mbps) 1920 x 1080/(60p) 16:9
FX (24Mbps) 1920 x 1080/(60i,30p,24p)
FH (17Mbps) 1920 x 1080/(60i,30p,24p)
HQ (9Mbps) 1440 x 1080/(60i) 16:9
LP (5Mbps) 1440 x 1080/(60i)/16:9

Which one would you choose for best cinema look?

 

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Teagan wrote on 1/9/2021, 5:36 PM

For anything like a cinema look you will need 24p (technically 23.976p but REAL 24p is only on really expensive cameras) and 48 shutter (or 50, if no 48). Every movie/blu ray you've ever seen was shot at 24p save a minor few exceptions.

If you can't set the shutter speed to 48 or 50 while on 24/23.976p it will look jumpy/juddery and not natural motion blur.

I'd pick FX 24Mb/s 1920x1080 24p and see if your camera supports a manual shutter speed of 48 or 50.

Depending on the quality of your camera's sensor you might get rolling shutter, which will cause artifacts when panning.

xberk wrote on 1/9/2021, 9:13 PM

>> I'd pick FX 24Mb/s 1920x1080 24p and see if your camera supports a manual shutter speed of 48 or 50.

Thanks for the suggestion.  You are correct, FX 24Mb/s 1920x1080 24p gives me 23.976fps and the shutter gets set to 48 automatically with this setting.

This piece does not involve any panning so I suppose no worries about rolling shutter. I'll give this a try in some camera tests vs FX 17Mb/s 1920x1080 24p and see if the higher compression is noticeable.

Thanks!

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Teagan wrote on 1/9/2021, 9:32 PM

The lower bitrate does not mean higher compression, it means less quality. I would suggest using 24Mb/s unless space is an issue.

If you have access to a more efficient codec like HEVC/h.265, which is about 200% as efficient as AVC/h.264, a lower bit rate may mean more compression for the file size, depending on that ratio of about 2:1 with HEVC to AVC.