beta editing in vegas 4

Aerie wrote on 10/22/2004, 6:21 AM

Hi! Experts,
I am working on a project that I need to shoot in beta cam, how I can edit it in my vegas 4 system.
Is it i have to convert to dv and then after editing put back in beta? If this is then what happen to quality of beta picture.
Or is there any way I can edit directly beta in my system.
Please suggestion:
Regards-
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SonyEPM wrote on 10/22/2004, 6:51 AM

What flavor of betacam (SP, IMX, SX, Digi)?

winrockpost wrote on 10/22/2004, 6:51 AM

I'm not an expert but I'll give you my 2cents.

Assuming you are talking about Beta SP, the simplest way is to simply convert it to DV, yes you are going to lose some quality, depending on what you are shooting and what happens with the final tape (broadcast,cable,marketing vid etc.) this may or may not be a major issue. We do it on a regular basis and have never had a complaint about losing quality, but the client also is not scoping before and after samples of the beta footage, With the naked eye it looks pretty good.
Some have used the decklink card and are bringing analog into their system and editing in Vegas, this i believe is going to require scsi drives and definitly a bunch of storage, see recent post about decklink.

Aerie wrote on 10/22/2004, 7:23 AM

Sorry, I just spoke to my producer he said he will provide dvcam 500 broadcast, can I capture is directly to my vegas?
If not then as WINROCK said I need to convert to dv right?

SonyEPM, it's dvcam 500 series please now your suggestions.
thanks-
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winrockpost wrote on 10/22/2004, 7:42 AM

Firewire

Coursedesign wrote on 10/22/2004, 8:20 AM

"Some have used the decklink card and are bringing analog into their system and editing in Vegas, this i believe is going to require scsi drives and definitly a bunch of storage, see recent post about decklink."

The Decklink cards don't require SCSI drives.

If you're using HD, the codec may require it because of the chosen data rate.

For uncompressed, you'll need at least a good 10,000 rpm SATA RAID.

For Beta SP you don't need to go that far, even a higher end 4:2:2 DVCPRO50 codec (like the free one from Matrox) doesn't require SCSI drives.

Aerie wrote on 10/22/2004, 9:14 AM

winrock, I have already firewire and use it for my mini dv footage to capture in my harddrive,
dvcam 500 series footage can I capture as minidv?
Thanks

rs170a wrote on 10/22/2004, 9:34 AM

DVCAM is a tape format. The signal that gets recorded on it is identical to what is recorded on a consumer miniDV camcorder.
To get the footage into Vegas, you'll need a DVCAM deck (DSR-11 or similar) as miniDV cameras can't play back DVCAM tapes due to it's higher record speed. Then you'll be able to capture from it, edit and print back to it.

Mike

Aerie wrote on 10/22/2004, 9:46 AM

Mike,
Thanks a lot,
Can't I capture from dvcam camera directly into my harddrive by usuing vegas captureing option as i do if for my mini dv from my mindv camera?
Once agina thanks a lot for the help.
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Coursedesign wrote on 10/22/2004, 10:04 AM

Yes, just hook it up via firewire.

busterkeaton wrote on 10/22/2004, 1:11 PM

As the others have pointed out

"DVCAM is a tape format. The signal that gets recorded on it is identical to what is recorded on a consumer miniDV camcorder."

What we refer to as DV or plain DV is technically known as DV25. DVCAM has a different tape size and different tape speed than miniDV, but the format is the same and as it goes over firewire and into Vegas the same way. So to work with DVCAM, you just need a DVCAM deck and firewire. Vegas capture will work with it.

Aerie wrote on 10/22/2004, 1:28 PM

Thank you all, it's really very helpful and this time i have my all answers.
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