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Terje wrote on 6/5/2008, 7:37 AM
Should be available within the next 10 days or so.
bStro wrote on 6/5/2008, 2:14 PM
More info about Terje's post, Sony plans to release DVD Architect 5 in the middle of this month. It's a free upgrade if you own DVD Architect 4.5, and it will included Blu-Ray authoring.

If you can't wait and if you're fine with just the HD video on a disc (no menus), you can do that straight from Vegas.

Rob
debuman wrote on 6/10/2008, 12:43 PM
Hey guys,

I tried doing it straite from the vegas timeline but it turned into a data blu ray disk and not a regular authoring plug and play disk. Why is that?.

Thanks.
Terje wrote on 6/10/2008, 12:45 PM
That's odd, Vegas burns BDMV disks as far as I know. What player have you tried to play it on? Oh,and HOW did you burn from the Vegas timeline? Vegas doesn't burn MPEG-2 to a Blu-Ray from the timeline or anywhere else I believe. Vegas only burns AVC to Blu-Ray from the timeline.

Did you do "Render as" and use the Blu-Ray disk as your target? If you did, that would give you a Blu-Ray data disk.
debuman wrote on 6/10/2008, 7:51 PM
Terje,

First of all sorry for the multi posting just super stressed out .

I start by selecting from vegas the tool bar then I select burn disk then I select blu ray disk. When that window opens I have a choice of which video format to choose from which is the MPEG 2 or Sony AVC MP4. I select Sony AVC then I choose a video template which is the blu ray 1440x1080 60i, 15 Mbps video stream. Then I choose the Dolby Digital AC-3 for the audio format and the audio template is the stereo DVD and then click on burn. Thats it.

The blu ray player I'm using is the LG Super multi blu writer/burner the model number is GGW-H2OL. There is a software that came with this burner its called Cyber Link power producer which I use to play back the video media. When I insert the blu ray disk I burned it does not play. I have to open up a folder and click on the media to play it.

Thanks.
Terje wrote on 6/10/2008, 9:22 PM
Honestly, I'd bet it might be your player. Do you have access to a Blu-Ray player? If not, drop by a store and ask them if you can try it out. I have done that a lot of times and never received a no yet.
TOG62 wrote on 6/10/2008, 10:58 PM
Cyberlink PowerProducer is actually an authoring program. The player on your system is probably Cyberlink PowerDVD. This is much more likely to play the disc correctly.

Mike
debuman wrote on 6/11/2008, 10:57 PM
Hey guys,

I tried using the computers Blu ray burner/player from LG and I have another Blu ray burner from Sony which is hooked up to my main t.v. and none of them plays the disk. So I just did exactly the same process and rendered it straite from the vegas timeline again with all the same settings and I'll see what happens next. I'll update you all soon.

Thanks.
Wolfgang S. wrote on 6/12/2008, 10:57 AM
For sure, Cyberlink Power DVD Ultra plays back BMDV structurs, and that works well both for AVCHD-DVDs but also for 002-BDMV structures as generated with Sony Vegas 8b.

If you have burned the material to a DVD, be aware that not every hardware-player will be able to play that back.

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HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

debuman wrote on 6/12/2008, 6:46 PM
Wolfgang S,

I understand it plays with Cyberlink Power DVD but my goal is to create a PLUG-N-PLAY Blu ray disk that will play instantly when you insert the disk. The average consumer out there does not have software that we have so I'm looking for ways to create that instant playable Blu ray disk. I hope there is another way besides rendering straite from the Vegas timeline because that is not working at all. I'm hoping DVDA5 comes out tomorrow. keep our fingers crossed.

Thanks.
markymarkNY wrote on 6/12/2008, 8:25 PM
how then does one create a 1920x1080 disc? That's not even listed as an option when making a blu-ray-
Wolfgang S. wrote on 6/13/2008, 6:35 AM
Vegas 8b creates a what you call "plug-n-play" BD - when you insert such a disc in a BD-player, it starts immediately (since you have no menu structures at all).

It is similar to the DVDA structure, that you create without a menu.

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Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Terje wrote on 6/13/2008, 6:39 AM
how then does one create a 1920x1080 disc?
You use DVD-A 5 when it comes out.
Wolfgang S. wrote on 6/13/2008, 6:49 AM
Or Vegas 8b in the meantime...

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Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Terje wrote on 6/13/2008, 10:11 AM
The problem has been identified. His sony player doesn't play writable Blu-Ray disks. He needs to get a new player. If he wants to test his BD-R(E) disks he should run over to Circuit CIty or Best Buy or his local equivalent and try the disk on a player that actually supports them.

The fact that his disk doesn't play on the computer-based LG drive is not a surprise, there are a large number of factors that can contribute. My LG in combination with my graphics card doesn't play Blu-Ray disks either, but then again, I didn't buy it to watch movies on, I bought it to burn.
debuman wrote on 6/13/2008, 11:36 AM
Terje,

What about my second DVD Blu ray player from Sony the BDP-S301 which is connected to my t.v. in the living room because it's not playing in that one either. Is there more then one type of Blu ray players or can they or should these players play it just because it's on a Blu ray disk?.

Also according to that one method we all are using to burn straite from the Vegas timeline to a Blu ray disk, why is it still burning as a data disk. If there is anybody out there that has used that same method what is your end result on how it is burned?.

What I also did was I used the Cyberlinks Powerproducer to author that same MPEG media that was created from the data disk and when that was complete I played it in both of my Blu ray players and still nothing plays. Now we all know that the problem is not the burning straite from the Vegas timeline because I just created or authored it directly from a seperate Blu ray authoring program and it still does not play. Just in case your wondering my monitors are all HD ready so it's not that.

What is the most universal burner/writable Blu ray disk that everybody is using for a PC?, and what is the most universal reader/player that everybody is using for viewing it?. Because It might be a compatibility issue of disk and player.

Thanks.
Terje wrote on 6/13/2008, 5:21 PM
As was said before, the problem is with the Sony BDP-S301, it doesn't play BD-RE disks unless you upgrade the firmware. The fact that it doesn't play on your PC can be a number of factors, including issues with your graphics card.

Go out and try other players.
Wolfgang S. wrote on 6/14/2008, 12:46 AM
"Also according to that one method we all are using to burn straite from the Vegas timeline to a Blu ray disk, why is it still burning as a data disk?."

Vegas generates no data disk, but a 002-BDMV-structure.

If your PC cannot read that, there is the possibility that UDF drivers are missing, especially if you use XP (what has no UDF driver on board, only Vista has that). Without such an UDF driver, the windows explorer under XP is not able to read such a structure.

Beside that, you need a player software that is able to play such a structure. Power DVD Ultra is such a software - I think that this sofware will also work without an extra UDF-driver, since that software bringt an UDF driver by itself.

Beside that, it is a difference if you talk about BD or DVD. You can burn BDMV to DVD with an old DVD-writter, and you are able to playback such a BDMV-DVD from an old DVD-writter.

If you burn to BD-R or BD-RE, you will need a BD-writter for both writting and reading. Also, here Power DVD Ultra is a possible choice.

Power DVD brings also a test software, that will test your hardware components for BD - for example, if your monitor is hdcp ready. It is always a good idea to check that, if you are see that something is wrong.

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Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

debuman wrote on 6/15/2008, 3:14 AM
Terje,

How do I upgrade the firmware. Can you please show me the steps.

Thanks.
LJA wrote on 6/15/2008, 7:20 AM
You can go to Sony.com support and find the update and instructions there, but it is a bit easier this way. Go to http://www.blu-ray.com/firmware/. Find your device. Clicking on it will take you directly to the Sony support site. Everything you need will be there.
debuman wrote on 6/16/2008, 11:36 AM
LJA,

Thanks for your time. I'm already there.
debuman wrote on 6/16/2008, 11:53 PM
LJA,

I went to the site but did not find a firmware for my LG GGW-H2OL Blu ray player/writer. Is there another site that you recommend?.

Thanks.
Terje wrote on 6/17/2008, 5:47 AM
Your LG doesn't need a firmware update, it obviously can read BR-R disks given the fact that it not only burns them but also reads them back no problem. The last time you claimed the disk didn't play in your player you were trying to play it using software that was not a Blu-Ray player. Obviously using a Blu-Ray player on your PC is a requirement, what player do you use?

Next, even if your software player can play your disk, it may be that your graphics hardware and your monitor doesn't support playing the disk. Can you play commercial Blu-Rays on the LG? If not, the problem may be that you do not have an HDCP graphics card, your software player may require that, it depends.

So, the steps to try
1/ Make sure you are acutally trying a player when you try to play
2/ Check if it plays commercial Blu-Rays
3/ If those fail, check your graphics card, is it HDCP enabled?
4/ Your monitor - is that HDCP enabled?

This isn't easy, but then again, being on the bleeding edge never was.
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 6/21/2008, 12:29 AM
After reading about BluRay burners and players here I'm unsure which burner to buy. Will all burners be able to burn all sizes and to any discs. After all clients may have different players which might not play stuff generated from your burner. I see Debuman seems to have bought the wrong BluRay player. What happens if your client has this player?

I will be buying a BluRay burner soon and would like to know IYHO which is most suitable?

Craig