Blu-ray Questions x 3

rjm1717 wrote on 9/26/2007, 8:53 AM

Hopefully this is not too basic of a question.

The Burn Blu-ray Disc function in Vegas 8 does not offer a 720p option? I am missing something or just not understanding this properly.

Also, has anyone have any comments about the Roxio DVDit Pro HD?

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/dvdit/hd/overview.html

I am in the process of buying a Blu-ray DVD burner. Any issues with any brands....good or bad?

Comments

apit34356 wrote on 9/26/2007, 10:09 AM

The New Pioneer is a lot faster than most if I remember correctly and this is the unit I'm currently planning to buy to upgrade my old BD equipment (for speed reasons). But the day I sign the check, beforehand, I do a quick review of new and old products . I was hoping Sony BD burners would be BD burn kings.

DVDit Pro HD was one first semi-pro apps to do a ok job. Been using the Pro line since 2004, but I really only used it very limited, same with Pro HD, not enough BD use to claim its the best. Soon, I think a lot more reasonable price apps will be out.

tnw2933 wrote on 9/26/2007, 10:11 AM

Ross,

I can't answer your first question because I have not yet used Vegas 8 to burn a Blu-ray disk from the timeline since I prefer to author blu-ray disks using Roxio DVDit Pro HD.

You asked about the latter program. I have found it to be quite useful for creating Blu-ray disks (both single and dual layer). In general, I created a blu-ray disk image in DVDit Pro HD and then use Nero 7 to burn this image to my blu-ray disk since DVDit Pro HD does not allow for the burning of dual layer Blu-ray disks. As for a blu-ray burner, I purchased the Lacie d2 blu-ray burner (external burner with USB connection) and I have found it to work flawelssly with both DVDit Pro HD and for backing up data to Blu-ray disks.

I would urge you to search this forum for additional posts on Blu-ray burning as there are other useful threads on this topic.

You might also wish to consider burning blu-ray disks to red laser DVDs which are much cheaper than Blu-ray media. This can be done with DVDit Pro HD and it works well as long as you keep the bit rate at or 18 Mbs. Higher bit rates are allowed by the Blu-ray format but thee seem to cuse skipping when I used them. These red laser blu-ray disks play beautifully in my Sony BDP-S1 blu-ray DVD player and are seen as AVCHD disks by this player. The image is truly remarkable on my 96 in. high definition projection system (Sony VPL-VW 100 LOCOS projector).

Tom

rjm1717 wrote on 9/26/2007, 1:41 PM

Thanks for the feedback. It is very useful

waratahbay wrote on 9/27/2007, 3:47 PM

Tom

Would you mind walking briefly through how you can burn Blu-ray files onto DVD red laser via DVDit Pro HD? I already have Nero 7. I don't want to commit to another expensive software purchase (after Vegas!) unless Blu-ray onto DVD disk is fairly straightforward. I can't find a trial version of DVDit Pro HD, which would of course help me to help myself to the answer. Also, what duration did you manage to get on the DVD and did it work successfully for dual-layer?

Peter

Laurence wrote on 9/27/2007, 8:13 PM

Roxio DVDit Pro HD is pretty much the only affordable true Blu-ray authoring game in town, but I wouldn't use it for making Bluray compatible discs on DVD-R media. There are too many compatibility issues with that approach since the discs won't play on the two most popular players: the Playstation 3 and the BDP-300. DVDit Pro is good however for making Blu-ray discs on BD-R media.

If you want to make Blu-ray compatible discs on DVD+-Rs, you need to be able to make AVCHD discs. Programs that are supposed to be able to do this are Nero 7, Video Studio 11, and at some point in the near future, Movie Factory 6 Plus and Nero 8.

By the way, if you do buy Roxio DVDit Pro HD, make sure to try to get the 50% discount that is available to almost all previous Roxio customers, including users of all all full versions of Roxio Easy Media Creator. You can find the discount http://www.roxio.com/enu/upgrade_center/dvdit/default.htmlhere[/link]

4eyes wrote on 9/27/2007, 9:11 PM

I've also been interested in the latest Pioneer BD player.
It's advertised to have an ethernet connection and capable of connecting to DLNA media servers.
If all these devices could be DLNA certified they would have lots of more use in the multi-media player field, home & commercial use. The Sony PS3 is DLNA certified.

You can put all your videos, music & pictures on a DLNA server and view/play them via the network.
Nero supplies a DLNA Media Server with it's distros, Buffulo media has a DLNA server media box, Windows Media player 11 is also a server.

megabit wrote on 9/27/2007, 11:59 PM

"If you want to make Blu-ray compatible discs on DVD+-Rs, you need to be able to make AVCHD discs. Programs that are supposed to be able to do this are Nero 7, Video Studio 11, and at some point in the near future, Movie Factory 6 Plus and Nero 8."

I tried Ulead and it's really good at HD DVD authoring. However, I'd like to warn you that the AVCHD quality from Nero 7 (even at highest settings) is simply awful!

So far, best results I can achieve using Vegas 8 own Blu-Ray burning from timeline; what a pity there is no even simplest authoring (menu etc) available. Hopefully it will be - in next DVDA version...

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Gary

4eyes wrote on 9/29/2007, 9:08 PM

I tried Ulead and it's really good at HD DVD authoring. However, I'd like to warn you that the AVCHD quality from Nero 7 (even at highest settings) is simply awful! Nero's encoder is picky & buggy. You usually have to turn off the automatic settings, manually set the H264 encoder to "Highest Quality", use the custom feature, assign upper_field_first if applicable, then on top of that if you set the encoder to 12MBS or 14MBS the program may end up encoding the video at 2MBS. So, if you haven't thrown those disks away yet if you check the bit-rate they are probably running at 2MBS.
Every release of Nero on my machine has a different bug in the encoder selection (or I'm doing something wrong).
After I could work around the bug and get the encoder to encode the bit-rates I wanted the videos came out pretty nice, not even close to what I deem awful.

What ares the purple-ish blochs that appear in the Sony avc encoder? Anyone encoder these blochs on their videos yet?